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Old 04-20-2013, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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I feel like I've often seen people refer to Boston as small. People also seem to refer to DC and Philadelphia as large.

I spent a small amount of time in Philly and DC over the last few days. I drove into University City for Philadelphia, and walked around there for awhile. Then drove through Center City, parked, saw the liberty bell, walked down Market street a little ways, then left. For DC, I parked at Silver Springs, took the red line to Dupont Circle, took a bus to Georgetown, walked around there a bit, crossed to Rosslyn where I got the subway to Smithsonian, saw the monuments, walked to Metro Center, and took the red line back to Silver Springs.

At no point did either city strike me as being larger than Boston, as I was expecting.

I didn't see much of the cities to really say that I know what I'm talking about, so I decided to look at google maps (all three shots are from the same distance away):

Philadelphia

Washington DC

Boston

And they still didn't seem all that different.

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Just for comparison, here are....

New York

Chicago

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So what do other people think? Are DC and Philadelphia really larger than Boston?

And if you want (though it might overlap with the "which is more urban" threads) which city feels largest? What is the second largest city on the east coast?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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I've never thought of DC as very physically large..I always thought Boston was a little larger physically, and Philadelphia larger than both.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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According to official numbers:

City level:
Philadelphia: 142.6 sq miles
Boston: 89.63 sq miles
DC: 68.3 sq miles

MSA level:
DC: 5564 sq miles
Philadelphia: 5118 sq miles
Boston: 4674 sq miles
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
According to official numbers:

City level:
Philadelphia: 142.6 sq miles
Boston: 89.63 sq miles
DC: 68.3 sq miles

MSA level:
DC: 5564 sq miles
Philadelphia: 5118 sq miles
Boston: 4674 sq miles
It's better to use the land area since 50% of Boston's area there is Boston Harbor.

Philadelphia: 135.1
Washington DC: 61.4
Boston: 48.43
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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I feel like I've often seen people refer to Boston as small. People also seem to refer to DC and Philadelphia as large.

I spent a small amount of time in Philly and DC over the last few days. I drove into University City for Philadelphia, and walked around there for awhile. Then drove through Center City, parked, saw the liberty bell, walked down Market street a little ways, then left. For DC, I parked at Silver Springs, took the red line to Dupont Circle, took a bus to Georgetown, walked around there a bit, crossed to Rosslyn where I got the subway to Smithsonian, saw the monuments, walked to Metro Center, and took the red line back to Silver Springs.

At no point did either city strike me as being larger than Boston, as I was expecting.

I didn't see much of the cities to really say that I know what I'm talking about, so I decided to look at google maps (all three shots are from the same distance away):

Philadelphia

Washington DC

Boston

And they still didn't seem all that different.

.

Just for comparison, here are....

New York

Chicago

.

So what do other people think? Are DC and Philadelphia really larger than Boston?

And if you want (though it might overlap with the "which is more urban" threads) which city feels largest? What is the second largest city on the east coast?
Market street in Old City and the area around the Liberty Bell isn't even Philadelphia's "downtown" anymore. You probably saw a bunch of skyscrapers off to the west. Try walking around the Rittenhouse/Center City West area. Combine that with Wash West and Old City and I don't see how you'd think Boston seems bigger than Philadelphia.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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no love for south street?
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:07 PM
 
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1. Philadelphia
2. Washington D.C.
3. Boston

From a development built-up area urban/suburban land mass aspect.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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I feel like I should add a bit more to my credibility with some pictures (the last one was taken with my iphone, so its not quite as clear):

DC



Philadelphia



Boston




And people have been posting the actual numerical sizes of the cities (and based on my origional post I can see why)

But what I was really trying to get at/ what I was really wondering was the level of continuity of the metro area. I'm not just wondering about the downtown, but also the entire metro area.

I was driving into Philadelphia on the Schuylkill expressway and there was practically no development until (I think it was) Germantown on the left. Then leaving to the south on I-95 (passing by the eagles stadium) there was also practically no development.

DC was more continuos, but I stil felt like there were certain areas were there were little patches of not-so-connected urban areas (I'm thinking of the view from the Fort Totten Metro stop).

Boston on the other hand has continuos sprawl in all directions Moreso to the west and north but also to the south.

Maybe I just didn't drive through the cities' suburbs?

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1. Philadelphia
2. Washington D.C.
3. Boston

From a development built-up area urban/suburban land mass aspect.
But that's the thing, look at the google maps. Boston looks bigger than DC, and about the same size as (maybe a bit bigger than) Philly (though differently shaped) which doesn't really make sense.

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Market street in Old City and the area around the Liberty Bell isn't even Philadelphia's "downtown" anymore. You probably saw a bunch of skyscrapers off to the west. Try walking around the Rittenhouse/Center City West area. Combine that with Wash West and Old City and I don't see how you'd think Boston seems bigger than Philadelphia.
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no love for south street?

This makes me sad. I could only spend a couple hours in Philadelphia because I had to rush out to Baltimore. I'll have to look around more next time.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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You didn't see houses on the I-95 to the right because in FACT there was Sand/recylcling thingies Naval Ports, and boats!!! Lol.... You've saw SO little bit if Philly. Driving along the I-95 is very misleading. The way out city is set up is Philly to the right and Jersey to the right, what you saw was water, and boats. Who puts houses on water? Also the sports center you speak of wouldn't have houses next to them because that doesn't make sense, no city does that.... You really saw a little bit, that's like going to any city, staying in one spot and saying it ain't big... You could say its not as dense as you thought, but saying it wasn't big is stupidity because you staying in 1sm of the city and saw about 3sm driving and all.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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You didn't see houses on the I-95 to the right because in FACT there was Sand/recylcling thingies Naval Ports, and boats!!! Lol.... You've saw SO little bit if Philly. Driving along the I-95 is very misleading. The way out city is set up is Philly to the right and Jersey to the right, what you saw was water, and boats. Who puts houses on water? Also the sports center you speak of wouldn't have houses next to them because that doesn't make sense, no city does that.... You really saw a little bit, that's like going to any city, staying in one spot and saying it ain't big... You could say its not as dense as you thought, but saying it wasn't big is stupidity because you staying in 1sm of the city and saw about 3sm driving and all.
That's what I figured and that's exactly my point. In Boston there are practically no areas around the city that are so massively undeveloped close to the city( to the north there's Cambridge, Somerville, etc, to the west there's Newton, Natick, Framingham, etc. to the south there's Milton, Quincy, etc). Even Foxboro, where our football stadium is, is also a developed town with people living in it. Therefore I feel like metro Boston seems bigger than greater Philly because it's more continuous.
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