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View Poll Results: Do you believe Chicago will build something taller than the Freedom Tower?
Yes, it's possible in our life time 37 72.55%
No, not likely in our life time 14 27.45%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-13-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PA Born View Post
There is no real skyscraper race anymore. NYC will have four of the five tallest.

1. One WTC- NYC
2. 225 W. 57- NYC
3. Willis Tower- Chicago
4. 432- Park Avenue- NYC
5. Hudson Yards North Tower- NYC

The issue is that NYC has extremely high land values and crazy demand, so it makes sense to build supertalls, even with all the NIMBYs and regulations.

Chicago in contrast, has few NIMBYs and tends to be pro-development, but doesn't have the land values or demand to build supertalls.
I generally agree with this, but there is huge NIMBY pressure in Chicago, maybe more so than NYC.

 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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It's possible. That's what they get for changing the building name to stupid "Willis Tower". But I wouldn't say a building is taller just because they have a tall spire either.

BTW that building makes it's surroundings look tiny.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PA Born View Post
There is no real skyscraper race anymore. NYC will have four of the five tallest.

1. One WTC- NYC
2. 225 W. 57- NYC
3. Willis Tower- Chicago
4. 432- Park Avenue- NYC
5. Hudson Yards North Tower- NYC

The issue is that NYC has extremely high land values and crazy demand, so it makes sense to build supertalls, even with all the NIMBYs and regulations.

Chicago in contrast, has few NIMBYs and tends to be pro-development, but doesn't have the land values or demand to build supertalls.
This is how it stands righ now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States
 
Old 05-13-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PA Born View Post
There is no real skyscraper race anymore. NYC will have four of the five tallest.

1. One WTC- NYC
2. 225 W. 57- NYC
3. Willis Tower- Chicago
4. 432- Park Avenue- NYC
5. Hudson Yards North Tower- NYC

The issue is that NYC has extremely high land values and crazy demand, so it makes sense to build supertalls, even with all the NIMBYs and regulations.

Chicago in contrast, has few NIMBYs and tends to be pro-development, but doesn't have the land values or demand to build supertalls.

Chicago broke ground on the Spire so I don't think NIMBY's had anything to do with the project being cancelled. It was do to a lack of funding. Keep in mind Chicago has had tons of supertall proposals which some of been built like the Trump In'tl. Hotel which is still the 3rd tallest in the country. Chicago will always continue building skyscrapers since William Le Baron Jenny's (The father of the skyscraper) Home Insurance Building from 1885. When the economy fully recovers I can see another Skyneedle or Spire proposal popping up in the headlines in the future. You just never know since Chicago can be unpredictable.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Phoenix doesn't have tall skyscrapers because Sky Harbor Airport is right next to downtown. Same with San Jose and to some extent Boston (though Back Bay provides a good place to build very tall buildings).

Also, we are getting a supertall out here in LA! Not as tall as 1 World Trade (and not quite as good-looking IMO) but still very noteworthy.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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NYC
Chicago
Houston
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Atlanta

will have the tallest buildings in the U.S... pretty much in that order.

Atlanta probably won't build anything significantly taller than BOA Plaza for a while.

Miami has a height limit of 1,000 feet if I'm not mistaken. Boston has a height limit of like 850 feet. Can't see any other city in the U.S. with enough demand and lack of space to build a Supertall than the cities listed above. Maybe Dallas? But I don't see that happening.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Chicago broke ground on the Spire so I don't think NIMBY's had anything to do with the project being cancelled. It was do to a lack of funding.
That's the whole point. There's not a big market in Chicago for supertalls. The Chicago Spire was never a realistic proposal. The developer was a no-name guy from Ireland, who never built a highrise in his life.
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Keep in mind Chicago has had tons of supertall proposals which some of been built like the Trump In'tl. Hotel which is still the 3rd tallest in the country.
And which hasn't been successful. It's still full of vacancies, after a decade of marketing. It's been a huge drag on the Trump family.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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NYC
Chicago
Houston
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Atlanta

will have the tallest buildings in the U.S... pretty much in that order.

Atlanta probably won't build anything significantly taller than BOA Plaza for a while.

Miami has a height limit of 1,000 feet if I'm not mistaken. Boston has a height limit of like 850 feet. Can't see any other city in the U.S. with enough demand and lack of space to build a Supertall than the cities listed above. Maybe Dallas? But I don't see that happening.
In terms of "what is the height of the tallest building", I agree.

In terms of "who has the most highrises", it would probably go like this:

NYC
Chicago
Miami
LA
Houston
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Dallas
Atlanta
Boston
 
Old 05-13-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by PA Born View Post
In terms of "what is the height of the tallest building", I agree.

In terms of "who has the most highrises", it would probably go like this:

NYC
Chicago
Miami
LA
Houston
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Dallas
Atlanta
Boston
1. NYC- 6,504
2. Chicago- 1,125
3. Los Angeles- 504
4. Honolulu- 439
5. San Francisco- 417
6. Houston- 360
7tie. Philadelphia- 330
7tie. Washington D.C.- 330
8. Miami- 295
9. Dallas- 246
10. Boston- 237
11. Arlington- 232
12. Atlanta- 231
13. Seattle- 222
14. Denver- 204
15. Minneapolis- 192
16. Detroit- 170
17. Baltimore- 159
18. Pittsburgh- 151
19tie. Miami Beach- 150
19tie. St. Louis- 150
20. San Diego- 149
List of cities with the most high-rise buildings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 05-13-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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I believe it was on April 19th there was a new project announced in Chicago.

The project is 3 buildings above 1000 ft And 2 above 2000 feet. I have a feeling this will get
Done Because the developers have a lot of money, the Only thing they are waiting on is the city of Chicago to approve, Which won't be hard To get.

• I'm not talking about The post office project either. I will post more about it later, I'm still at work!
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