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Location: Cleveland, OH USA / formerly Chicago for 20 years
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Originally Posted by JohnDBaumgardner
As you mentioned, Cleveland has the 2nd largest theater district in the United States ... something not even Chicago can stake a claim to
If all that concerns you is the "size" of a theater district, and you wish as well to ignore the fact that Chicago has "several" distinct theater districts, as well as a far more extensive and innovative overall theater scene than Cleveland does (much of what ends up on Broadway in NYC originates in Chicago, for example) -- well, in that case you may be right...
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Location: Cleveland, OH USA / formerly Chicago for 20 years
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Originally Posted by CowsAndBeer
The thing is, I've written about music professionally. I've toured in bands. I've booked tours internationally. I'm very well-connected with the arts scene, and have been for close to 30 years. Ballet, 3rd run Broadway plays and classical music are not modern "arts," they are what your grandmother can accept as "arts." Every metro in the Midwest has a variation of the theatre, orchestra, etc. Real, cutting edge arts (what is happening now) vary city-to-city vastly. Cleveland and Cincy simply do not compare with Columbus today (or for the past few decades), and I would know, since I've been booking bands and installations for a couple decades now and this is the kind of information I have to possess.
^ Prof, I wouldn't worry too much about what the above purveyors of low-culture Columbus boy-bands, bars, and beer conclude about high-culture Cleveland and Cincinnati art offerings and institutions. Nothing more happening in Cbus than chaff being blown about in the wind--here today, gone tomorrow. Undoubtedly, if one's 35 or older, they'll understand.
I'm over 35, and I'm concerned that you are also yet you're into boy bands. Pretty creepy. What's specifically happened in Cleveland that will "stick?" The answer is - nothing. 5th run plays. 180th run classical compositions. Are you completely unconcerned with vibrant, living culture? Because if so, you don't "get it," sorry.
I'm over 35, and I'm concerned that you are also yet you're into boy bands. Pretty creepy. What's specifically happened in Cleveland that will "stick?" The answer is - nothing. 5th run plays. 180th run classical compositions. Are you completely unconcerned with vibrant, living culture? Because if so, you don't "get it," sorry.
Hahahaha, I love how you're letting your emotions get away from you on an online forum. We've moved from 3rd run to 5th run plays, and 180th run classical music. You still haven't explained why you think cutting edge= culture, when most European cities have lots of culture but are not necessarily cutting edge. Besides, Cleveland does have cutting edge things. We have a brand new Museum of Contemporary Art, and several Avant Garde theaters. In fact, the New York Times just printed an article about how cultured Cleveland is. http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/07/21...cleveland.html. The last line of the article? "...a T-shirt for sale at the homey Coffee House on the Case Western campus didn’t seem as far-fetched as it once might have. Emblazoned across it: Cleveland Is My Paris."
I think you're projecting your emotions "getting away from you" onto me, because your statement couldn't be further from the truth. I've explained why cutting edge = defining local culture numerous times already, you can't get blood from a stone.
I'm over 35, and I'm concerned that you are also yet you're into boy bands. Pretty creepy. What's specifically happened in Cleveland that will "stick?" The answer is - nothing. 5th run plays. 180th run classical compositions. Are you completely unconcerned with vibrant, living culture? Because if so, you don't "get it," sorry.
So, you're over 35 and concerned with vibrant, living culture? Exactly where do you believe the rest of us to be? () We all mature in vastly different "social climes," and for you, Columbus has become some sort of Midwestern cultural-Mecca. Nevertheless, your own illusions don't translate into everyone else's reality. What's next--how many comic book stores, urban graffiti, flash mobs, Somali immigrants, and LGBT paraphernalia the other "2-Cs" lack? Please spare the rationale why Cbus is the "center of mind and heart" for the Midwest--and, in turn, you'll be spared learning why Cleveland and Cincinnati are Ohio's ONLY two cultured big-cities. (A deal?)
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) We all mature in vastly different "social climes," and for you, Columbus has become some sort of Midwestern cultural-Mecca. Nevertheless, your own illusions don't translate into everyone else's reality. What's next--how many comic book stores, urban graffiti, flash mobs, Somali immigrants, and LGBT paraphernalia the other "2-Cs" lack? Please spare the rationale why Cbus is the "center of mind and heart" for the Midwest--and, in turn, you'll be spared learning why Cleveland and Cincinnati are Ohio's ONLY two cultured big-cities. (A deal?) 
