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Old 07-23-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I've seen many posts that list NOLA as a world-class city (or at least world-class travel destination) and on those same lists Cincinnati is almost nowhere to be found. People regularly confuse Cleveland and Cincinnati despite them being completely different. My question is, "Why?"

Cincinnati's architecture is on par with New Orleans. Over-the-Rhine is the largest historic district in the country, including the French Quarter. Cincinnati has equally impressive (if not more impressive) landmarks than New Orleans. Cincinnati has a unique culture that isolates it completely from its surrounding area, much the way New Orleans does. Cincinnati has unique culinary specialties like cincinnati chili and goetta. Lastly, Cincinnati feels old and historic, has the slow-pace lifestyle, and is beautifully built into the land much like New Orleans.

In having these conversations with people as I travel, I often hear provincialism touted as a reason why Cincinnati isn't highly regarded. However provincialism is exactly what makes New Orleans noteworthy. New Orleans has just as much corruption, crime, and disinvestment. New Orleans' neighborhoods are more rough than Cincinnati's and have more blight. New Orleans' suburbs are far more conservative than Cincinnati's. New Orleans has just as much tattoo wearing, substance smoking, free thinking, counter-culture as Cincinnati. Yet for some reason, these aspects are met with contempt in reference to Cincinnati and either seen as a non-issue or are highly regarded in reference to New Orleans.

I'm not trying to argue that Cincinnati is an any way better than New Orleans. I'd just like to start an honest debate as to why the nation and world view two cities with similar qualities so differently.
I will be completely honest this whole time I thought you were talking about Cleveland, until I read when you said people get it confused with Cleveland. I totally agree or a metro of its size it is really un-heard of to many. I think it may have to do with its location. Ohio as a whole is not on the top of peoples radars for a state of its size. Basically New Orleans just has something about it that's great, and Cincinnati has something that makes it unknown.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The greater Cincinnati area has 9 fortune five hundred companies. The only cities that have more are Houston and New York. Cincinnati is tied with Atlanta and Chicago. I don't know how much more you can expect from a city that's by far the smallest out of the five.

For Reference these companies are:

Procter & Gamble (Downtown)
Western & Southern (Downtown)
Macy's (Downtown)
Kroger (Downtown)
Fifth Third (Downtown)
Ashland (Covington)
Omnicare (Covington)
General Cable (Highland Heights)
AK Steel (West Chester)
Why are you using the metro area for Cincinnati (greater Cincinnati), but then using the city proper for other cities? All of the cites you've listed have many more Fortune 500 headquarters in their metros (Greater Chicago, Greater Atlanta, Greater New York, Greater Houston, Greater maybe a half dozen or so other cities not mentioned so far) than there are in Cincinnati's metro.

Also, I think this is a separate topic from the OPs. Those companies don't exactly scream Cincinnati in their products or services.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati(Silverton)
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Also, I think this is a separate topic from the OPs. Those companies don't exactly scream Cincinnati in their products or services.
Open up your medicine cabinet or under you sink. I beat you have some products made by a Cincinnati Company.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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The big reasons relate more to just how special New Orleans is than what Cincinnati is lacking.

1) New Orleans arguably has the best local music scene in the country. I'm not talking about big venues or well known bands, but in small bars and on the streets you will find incredible, soulful musicians playing amazing blues, jazz, funk, big band, soul at all hours. The talents levels are through the roof. It is a musician's and a music lover's mecca. The music scene is organic and built into the fabric of the City - it is unlike any other City I've ever been to in this regard. Cincinnati has a good music scene but it is has nowhere near the breadth and depth that NO has.

2) New Orleans arguably has the strongest local culinary tradition of any city in the country as well. It borrows from other traditions, but is very distinct and offers an incredibly unique experience to visitors. Cincinnati has a good and underrated food scene and some local specialties as well (like Chili) but, again, it is nowhere near the level that NO is.

3) Finally, New Orleans is easily in the top 5 (and some would say top 3) in terms of nightlife and party vibe in the country. Drinking in bars and partying on the street is embedded into the City's culture 24-7. The party vibe is very unique and can be felt immediately. There's a reason Tales of the Cocktail is held there every year (and that so many famous cocktails were invented in New Orleans). Mardi Gras and JazzFest are full blown party festivals that are tough to match. Again, Cincinnati has an underrated nightlife and some great beer gardens, but it's not on the same level.

People come to New Orleans for unique, world-class food, music, and partying. Cincinnati just doesn't offer those things at anywhere near the same level as NO. Very few cities anywhere do.

New Orleans is renowned for its architecture and charm, and I will agree with you that Cincinnati has that in spades as well. But NO's historical areas are better kept up and much more vibrant because they are more visited due to the tourist draw of food, music, and partying.

In short, Cincinnati is an underrated City that makes for a more interesting visit (with more amenities and attractions) than most people would imagine. However, it doesn't have the world-class music scene, food, and party atmosphere that New Orleans is famous for.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Open up your medicine cabinet or under you sink. I beat you have some products made by a Cincinnati Company.
That's not the point. I'm sure I have many products made by a Cincinnati company, especially by P&G since their business is consumer goods.

If you read the topic title and original post, the topic is about global name recognition. The Fortune 500 companies and the products they make don't often cause people to think "Cincinnati" when someone uses their products or services no matter how ubiquitous that product/service is.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati(Silverton)
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That's not the point. I'm sure I have many products made by a Cincinnati company, especially by P&G since their business is consumer goods.

If you read the topic title and original post, the topic is about global name recognition. The Fortune 500 companies and the products they make don't often cause people to think "Cincinnati" when someone uses their products or services no matter how ubiquitous that product/service is.
Ask 10,000 people you will get 10,000 different answers. Ask your 3-4 friends or 10-20 acquaintances about certain cities the will have different opinions. New Orleans is not in the same tier as Cincinnati. It's only ahead of it in entertainment just as Las Vegas or Orlando. Any of them have a world known sympathy orchestra or world known Zoo?
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Ask 10,000 people you will get 10,000 different answers. Ask your 3-4 friends or 10-20 acquaintances about certain cities the will have different opinions. New Orleans is not in the same tier as Cincinnati. It's only ahead of it in entertainment just as Las Vegas or Orlando. Any of them have a world known sympathy orchestra or world known Zoo?
A sympathy orchestra? That sounds amazing. Cincinnati really should market that.

Again, this isn't about which city is better or more economically prosperous or even which one you or I personally prefer. The question was why New Orleans is in general better known around the world. It's not a pissing contest. It's just looking for an explanation for a fact.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Ask 10,000 people you will get 10,000 different answers. Ask your 3-4 friends or 10-20 acquaintances about certain cities the will have different opinions. New Orleans is not in the same tier as Cincinnati. It's only ahead of it in entertainment just as Las Vegas or Orlando. Any of them have a world known sympathy orchestra or world known Zoo?
New Orleans is ahead of Cincinnati in food, culture, entertainment, and probably museums and art as well as economic potential.
The Louisiana Philharmonic Orchestra is the only full-time professional orchestra in the Gulf South and is the only orchestra in the United States owned and operated professionally by a musician.
The Aquarium of the Americas in New Orleans is one of the best in the nation.

New Orleans is not in the same tier as far as economy, murder rate, etc but it's creeping up fast.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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I've noticed more than a few city boosters on this forum pushing the symphony orchestras as reasons their city should be highly regarded or on people's radar. I do not understand this thinking - it is not 1955. I would bet a large amount $$ that a vast majority of people today do not even attend symphonies - let alone rate or think of cities based on them.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Sunbelt
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Ask 10,000 people you will get 10,000 different answers. Ask your 3-4 friends or 10-20 acquaintances about certain cities the will have different opinions. New Orleans is not in the same tier as Cincinnati. It's only ahead of it in entertainment just as Las Vegas or Orlando. Any of them have a world known sympathy orchestra or world known Zoo?
Tbh, I didn't know anything about a zoo in Cincinnati. Also, it's just a zoo. Symphony orchestra have been slowly losing prominence in America. Let's face it. Cincinnati is probably better than New Orleans in economics and safety, not much else. Plus those two things don't make a city popular, entertainment does.
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