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Cincy is a decaying city, all you have to do is visit to confirm it. Ohio is a much bigger state than SC population wise but there are no major SC cities losing population like Cincy and probably some of the others.
you are so misinformed. Cincinnati is at the beginning of one of America's great urban renaissances. And good for South Carolina for poaching jobs from other states/countries, apparently it hasn't produced much innovation on its own.
Don't be shocked when in a few years time, young South Carolinians talk about moving north to a booming downtown Cincy, which has a level of urbanity no city in South Carolina could dream of (and btw, I love Charleston and Greenville)
and earlier you mentioned that no one wants to visit Cincinnati....than explain to me why "Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky are in the midst of what could be the biggest hotel building boom in decades - creating up to 1,500 Downtown area rooms that stray far beyond the traditional. "????
You really don't come across as very informed and you are doing absolutely nothing to alter the image of Southerners as a but slow due to excessive heat.
you are so misinformed. Cincinnati is at the beginning of one of America's great urban renaissances. And good for South Carolina for poaching jobs from other states/countries, apparently it hasn't produced much innovation on its own.
Don't be shocked when in a few years time, young South Carolinians talk about moving north to a booming downtown Cincy, which has a level of urbanity no city in South Carolina could dream of (and btw, I love Charleston and Greenville)
lol, well don't see too many people preferring to live in Cincy over Charleston, Greenville or Columbia. the warmer weather and I assume lower cost of living alone is all we need plus closer to the beach.
Cincy is no doubt more urban but it is also pretty gritty and looks like some really bad poverty there on a large scale. We also have Charlotte which is only 10 miles from the state line and Charlotte might be bigger than Cincy.
I like Cincy and looks like it has a lot of entertainment options, I did an interview there 2 years ago with a small engineering firm called Hixson up on Mt. Adams but I felt like it would be too cold and bleak for me in the winter and I read driving can be treachorous there in the winter due to all the hills. I was pleasantly surprised by all the hills in Cincy and that drive on the interstate from northern Kentucky into Cincy is one of the more impressive in the country, the city kind of pops up on you out of nowhere. I was expecting it to be a flat area. If I haad to live in the midwest it would be my first and really only choice, due to the hillier terrain and closest to southeast.
Dew I didn't bring up Cincinnati's proximity to major metro areas like NYC, etc hoping that you would like those cities, but to flatly refute your claim that Cincinnati is inaccessible to any cities that anyone cares about. If you're saying that the only cities that anyone should care about or consider moving to or visiting are the small towns in South Carolina, then I think we may never be able to come to an agreement here...
I'm happy that your state is experiencing net migration. That's outstanding news. Why wouldn't it be? I believe most would agree that there has been a loss of population in Midwestern or Great Lakes towns due to the shifting economic base of the US in general, specifically manufacturing. Most of the cities are in a transition phase, moving away from that old base. That does not mean the state of Ohio is in decline. Keep in mind, the Cincy metro area already has nearly half the population of the entire state of South Carolina. South Carolina has a lot of catching up to do if it wants to compete economically or population-wise. It's good to hear they are moving in the right direction.
There is enormous investment going on in downtown Cincinnati, which had been continuing for some time now. This doesn't make us better or worse than anyone, as any city should hope for this sort of progress forward. But to say the city is decaying, as you did, is not only totally unfair but displays a lack of awareness and comes across as naive hyperbole.
Dew I didn't bring up Cincinnati's proximity to major metro areas like NYC, etc hoping that you would like those cities, but to flatly refute your claim that Cincinnati is inaccessible to any cities that anyone cares about. If you're saying that the only cities that anyone should care about or consider moving to or visiting are the small towns in South Carolina, then I think we may never be able to come to an agreement here...
I'm happy that your state is experiencing net migration. That's outstanding news. Why wouldn't it be? I believe most would agree that there has been a loss of population in Midwestern or Great Lakes towns due to the shifting economic base of the US in general, specifically manufacturing. Most of the cities are in a transition phase, moving away from that old base. That does not mean the state of Ohio is in decline. Keep in mind, the Cincy metro area already has nearly half the population of the entire state of South Carolina. South Carolina has a lot of catching up to do if it wants to compete economically or population-wise. It's good to hear they are moving in the right direction.
There is enormous investment going on in downtown Cincinnati, which had been continuing for some time now. This doesn't make us better or worse than anyone, as any city should hope for this sort of progress forward. But to say the city is decaying, as you did, is not only totally unfair but displays a lack of awareness and comes across as naive hyperbole.
i don't consider COlumbia, Greenville, Charleston to be small towns. they aren't as dense as cities up north but there are lot of people in these metros. big towns just have duplicates of retail areas and more suburbs and maybe a few more tall buildings downtown. big whoop. cincy might have 8 best buys compared to 4 in Columbia. so what. LOL i don't ssee the point in leaving Cincy to go to Detroit or Columbus or Cleveland, it seems like pretty much the same thing in different location. the carolinas has more variety of city types and scenery and i can be at the beach or mountains, or a large city in Charlotte or Atlanta in 2-3 hours from where i am at. everything is new looking in the southeast, the north is noticeably older looking, southeast is just more laid back and it is easier to get around. I hate traffic myself and i remember looking out the window at Hixson building on Mt. Adams and seeing traffic backed up for like 3 miles on the interstate. LOL
If you went to college at Ohio State or other colleges in the area, or grew up there, I am sure Cincy is ok and not that isolated for you. it seems too landlocked for me though.
it was hyperbole to say Cincy was decaying but you guys have been beating up on SC and getting some facts wrong as well. to say there are no fortune 500 companies here is a specious argument b/c those lists are just talking about the Headquarters where the CEO and other top officials work not the majority of the employees of the companies.
I don't want SC to gain much more population. more people in your state does not equate to living the good life in my mind.
Getting back to the original debate, New Orleans wins due to Mardi Gras, the French Quarter, and it's notoriety for anything-goes entertainment. Cincinnati is just not trying to take that title. Of the two, when I lived in Southern California (to take away my current bias of living in Cincy), I would easily choose NOLA to visit over Cincy. It's really not a contest due to said notoriety, its unique culture, its ocean proximity, and warmer climate. It's just "different" than most cities.
Having said that, actually living in NOLA is a whole different animal altogether. The livability factor of Cincinnati is much more attractive than New Orleans. New Orleans I'd like to spend a weekend in, then go home and cleanse myself of my debauchery just to plan my next getaway. It's a getaway destination. This is the same as going to Vegas, or Manhattan, or South Beach Miami, etc. Visiting there to have one kick-ass weekend is very different from living there full-time. This is one reason Cincinnati will never win when it comes to tourist destinations: because it doesn't want to. The people that live here are fiercely proud and protective of its easy live-ability, safety, low cost of living, beauty, with just enough entertainment downtown and by the river to keep you satisfied. It doesn't want to be NOLA or Vegas. That totally changes the dynamic. Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad both cities exist and that our country is big and diverse enough to even make this debate possible.
...I have no desire to go to NYC, Boston, Philly, etc. Overrated cities with people living on top of each other. I worked outside of NYC for 4 months and it isn't anything special unless a lot of corporate buildings downtown gets you excited...
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...Greeville SC has at least 20 major American regional headquarters alone...
...Greenville SC also has the highest number of international companies in the country according to something I read...
Such outlandish observations as the ones you've proclaimed above demonstrate why you've destroyed your own credibility and derailed this entire thread...
Getting back to the original debate, New Orleans wins due to Mardi Gras, the French Quarter, and it's notoriety for anything-goes entertainment. Cincinnati is just not trying to take that title. Of the two, when I lived in Southern California (to take away my current bias of living in Cincy), I would easily choose NOLA to visit over Cincy. It's really not a contest due to said notoriety, its unique culture, its ocean proximity, and warmer climate. It's just "different" than most cities.
Having said that, actually living in NOLA is a whole different animal altogether. The livability factor of Cincinnati is much more attractive than New Orleans. New Orleans I'd like to spend a weekend in, then go home and cleanse myself of my debauchery just to plan my next getaway. It's a getaway destination. This is the same as going to Vegas, or Manhattan, or South Beach Miami, etc. Visiting there to have one kick-ass weekend is very different from living there full-time. This is one reason Cincinnati will never win when it comes to tourist destinations: because it doesn't want to. The people that live here are fiercely proud and protective of its easy live-ability, safety, low cost of living, beauty, with just enough entertainment downtown and by the river to keep you satisfied. It doesn't want to be NOLA or Vegas. That totally changes the dynamic. Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad both cities exist and that our country is big and diverse enough to even make this debate possible.
doesn't Cincy have a casino now? I think it was being built across from the Hixson office on Mt. Adams. the engineers were looking out the window and talking about it after my interview. you might be getting some tourists now. LOL
Such outlandish observations as the ones you've proclaimed above demonstrate why you've destroyed your own credibility and derailed this entire thread...
i'm not sure what is outlandish about these two statements or how i derailed anything. NYC has some tourist attractinos like the Statue of LIberty, and some major league sports teams but i don't see what makes it so great and you'll be spending half your life sitting in traffic. going anywhere in NYC or northern NJ is a hassle. i'm not a mass transit fan either. LOL
I do like the area of NYC along the Hudson river, Pallisades state park or whatever it is called. it is pretty up there, it is too bad so many people live there but way too cold for me regardless.
All i said is Cincy is somewhat isolated from the east coast due to a natural barrier in the mountains to the east and really not much of anything for 4 hours of driving to the south and not really any place I would want to go that much to the north or west. I didn't know this was going to be so controversial with Cincy citizens.
From the Greenville SC commerce website: The region also boasts more than 240 international companies and the most foreign investment per capita in the country.
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Greater Cincinnati is actually home to 10 F500 companies which includes Kroger (this country's largest grocery chain), Procter & Gamble (the world's largest consumer-products company), and Macy's (one of the most recognized retailers anywhere).
Macys is only technically HQ in Cincy, though. Since the merger, they moved all the top management to NYC, and they actually have much bigger staffing in the NYC office. Terry Lundgren, the CEO, is based in NYC, as are all his deputies.
Macys is only technically HQ in Cincy, though. Since the merger, they moved all the top management to NYC, and they actually have much bigger staffing in the NYC office. Terry Lundgren, the CEO, is based in NYC, as are all his deputies.
Nobody's denying NYC's influence/role in Macy's operation, but Macy's isn't "only technically HQ in Cincy," but really headquartered in Cincy. (Same coin, different sides.)
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