Toronto vs. New York to live (long term) (cost, bigger, life)
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New York easily. I would move there if the right job opportunity came along and I have looked in the past. Taking a smaller space wouldn't be a deal killer anyway, it's actually sometimes harder to find nice but cheap small efficiency studios in Chicago. The market is more for 1 and 2 bedroom places in the "Deal" ranges that are more modern. I have a 1 bedroom now and to be honest it's actually too much space with a big living room, big dining room, walk in closet, big storage unit, very nice though, but my apt feels pretty empty. The thing is in Chicago I Can get a nice 1br for a 900-1000. Or go down to a studio for 800-900. So what's the point?
Canada is not really feasible, would have to find an employer offering a visa, wouldn't have citizenship benefits.
New York easily. I would move there if the right job opportunity came along and I have looked in the past. Taking a smaller space wouldn't be a deal killer anyway, it's actually sometimes harder to find nice but cheap small efficiency studios in Chicago. The market is more for 1 and 2 bedroom places in the "Deal" ranges that are more modern. I have a 1 bedroom now and to be honest it's actually too much space with a big living room, big dining room, walk in closet, big storage unit, very nice though, but my apt feels pretty empty. The thing is in Chicago I Can get a nice 1br for a 900-1000. Or go down to a studio for 800-900. So what's the point?
Canada is not really feasible, would have to find an employer offering a visa, wouldn't have citizenship benefits.
You also forgot that New York has about 1000 times more of everything than Toronto (and don't take this literally, but you get the point).
But I'm a little bit biased given that I would automatically pick Manhattan over any place in the Western Hemisphere. Plus, it's the quintessential east coast city and that seals the deal for me.
This is like another one of those "Buffalo vs Chicago" threads
There are factors that do check in Toronto's favour even in this matchup (The OP did state Long term btw), but for sure more for NYC than Toronto. Having said that your Buffalo vs Chicago comparison is more than an unfair analogy but I was expecting this type of rhetoric from some in here.
A better analogy to Buffalo vs Chicago would be - Minneapolis vs NYC.
What does NYC offer that Toronto does not? I've been to NYC more than 100 times and Toronto only once.
I can see why NYC would run away with this due to size and stature alone... obviously it is a bigger, more famous city.. They both offer tons but NYC just offers more on pretty much every level... Both have fantastic ethnic diversity and are the biggest of each perspective country.
I see Toronto's recent growth spurt as sort of an earlier version of Manhattan - currently we are building twice the number of Highrises and as such are becoming quite transformative both in pedestrian traffic and built form adding to the vibrancy of our DT core.. Are we NYC - not close but It is exciting to see what Toronto has become and what it will become will only add to the stature and prominence of the city. In fairness to Toronto - no other city in N.A comes close either...
NYC will be #1 in North America for a while. So any city that is compared to it will most likely lose. We are talking about a city of 8.3 mill, the city that never sleeps, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere...
Toronto, Chicago, LA, SF, etc. can all fight for the #2, #3, #4, #5 spots.
Not getting any of this. How is Toronto like Miami/Fort Lauderdale, and how has it taken the "best of Europe"?
Also how does Toronto have better highways? There are like 3 highways in Toronto.
And better landscape? Most of Toronto is flat and featureless, and the surrounding countryside is mostly flat farmland. People go crazy over the Don Valley, the Scarborough Cliffs, and really anything out of the ordinary.
NYC is surrounded by ocean, mountains, forests, and the like. Much more natural scenery.
Really?
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