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Moving for the metric system? ...giggle...
As someone who's lived in several countries, I get the itch to get out of America for a while...but seriously-the metric system is the main draw?
Of course! Do you think I want to see and hear miles, yards, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. daily?!
Sorry, I didn't know cities are ranked by only how many law firms and accounting offices are there.
I guess things like public transportation, education, healthcare, density, airports, city population/metro population, diversity, finance, growth, etc, and other factors are not taken into consideration. Oh well...
I didnt know that either, but apparently that's how you rank them given the stated basis for your view that Toronto and Boston can not possibly be on the same level ... i.e. that an organization which ranks cities based on accounting and law offices designated one as "alpha" and the other as "beta".
I didnt know that either, but apparently that's how you rank them given the stated basis for your view that Toronto and Boston can not possibly be on the same level ... i.e. that an organization which ranks cities based on accounting and law offices designated one as "alpha" and the other as "beta".
Not trying to turn this into a Boston/Toronto thread, but do you feel Boston ranks higher than Toronto to you, on an overall scale?
The city/urban part of Toronto feels quite a bit bigger than Boston in my limited experience of both cities.
As it should, because Toronto is the bigger city. I think people are referring to overall and if you factor in other criteria (public transit, GDP, wealth, education, healthcare, food, culture, etc..) Boston and Toronto are absolutely in the same class. Which as someone who has lived in both is not a slight to either city.
The population of the city of Dallas is 1.1 million. That's considerably less than half the size of the city of Toronto. If you're referring to the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington MSA and trying to pass it off as one city, that's ridiculous.
I would imagine comparing metro areas is much more reasonable than comparing cities. Wouldn't comparing city populations be far more ridiculous? City boundaries are completely random and not comparable.
I mean, you really think Berlin is much bigger than Paris? You really think Sydney, Australia is a small town? You really think San Francisco is a suburb of San Jose?
I would imagine comparing metro areas is much more reasonable than comparing cities. Wouldn't comparing city populations be far more ridiculous? City boundaries are completely random and not comparable.
I mean, you really think Berlin is much bigger than Paris? You really think Sydney, Australia is a small town? You really think San Francisco is a suburb of San Jose?
Dallas and Toronto are about the same size, IMO.
Do you really think the borders of metro areas are any less random?
If Berlin is bigger than Paris, why does it matter? Its population is bigger - who cares? Sydney Australia's population is not that of a small town, but reflects the fact that most of its residents live in the suburbs. San Francisco is not a suburb of San Jose just because San Jose has a larger population. They are both cities in another Metro area clusterf**k, and both stand on their own.
Dallas and Toronto are not the same size, because the Dallas you are talking about is not Dallas - it is an amalgamation of dozens of cities and suburbs. And its borders are just as random as for any city. Now if you want to argue that the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington MSA is the same size as the Greater Toronto Area or whatever, go to town, but when you say Dallas, say what you mean, because Dallas is not a single city in the way you speak of. Toronto is. And it's much bigger, denser, and more urban. As I already posted, the population density of the City of Dallas is similar to some of Toronto's suburbs. One of Toronto's suburbs (Mississauga) is the same size as the city of Fort Worth, and Mississauga is not even included in Toronto's population. So even combining Dallas, Fort Worth, and Arlington, these three cities still do not match the population of the City of Toronto. It's only when you start adding up the population of every single town and suburb in the MSA that you are able to reach a number close to 7,000,000, but most of those residents are not city-dwellers, but residents of a far-flung town or suburb that is part of the CSA.
Furthermore, many cities in America have turned themselves into massive metropolitan areas by simply swallowing every nearby town, city and suburb and thereby tripled and quadrupled their population, making them sound much bigger than they are. They have created borders for themselves that are just as arbitrary as the city borders you seem to have a beef with. The majority of those 7,000,000 people who live in the Dallas-Fort Woth-Arlington MSA live in a suburb, which could be miles and miles from Dallas Proper. The population density for the MSA is extremely low, so you are comparing apples to oranges with Dallas and Toronto. One is a sprawling amalgamation of dozens of towns, suburbs, and a couple of cities, while the other is a single city, and one of the densest urban areas in North America, right up there with Chicago and San Francisco.
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part of Toronto feels quite a bit bigger than Boston in my limited experience of both cities.
