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Chicago has the tallest building in the western hemisphere. I'm sure it'd ring a few bells.
Not sure how global of a hit the newest Batman movies were, (Dark Knight Trilogy) but the first and second ones were filmed mostly in Chicago.
Anyway, I do think Los Angeles is probably more well known on a global scale, it's the home of all our movie stars, the set of most movie productions, the place where most of our television shows come from, the large coastal paradise with fine beaches. It's debatable if you would call world wide precedence the same thing as culture.
I think the cultural vibes between the two cities are very stark. While a lot of Chicagoans have a slight accent that sets them apart, a history of some of the most famous gangsters, the most modern and second largest skyline in the country, high end shopping only eclipsed by 5th Avenue in NYC, the second busiest airport in the world, (after Atlanta), LAX and JFK don't even come close to O'Hare, one of the more renowned universities in the country, the University of Chicago, probably one of the closest equals to MIT in the technology department, and much much more. The cultural battle is closer than a lot of people want to admit.
Chicago has the tallest building in the western hemisphere. I'm sure it'd ring a few bells.
no it doesn't, I guess you missed the memo it was passed. Besides, other structures like Empire State and Golden Gate are more well known. It must not be that iconic when a company can just change the name rendering it's historical name recognition obsolete.
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Not sure how global of a hit the newest Batman movies were, (Dark Knight Trilogy) but the first and second ones were filmed mostly in Chicago.
The third was filmed in Detroit. You are basing world recognition on Batman films...what?
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I think the cultural vibes between the two cities are very stark. While a lot of Chicagoans have a slight accent that sets them apart, a history of some of the most famous gangsters, the most modern and second largest skyline in the country, high end shopping only eclipsed by 5th Avenue in NYC
NYC has more areas than 5th ave that are better than Chicago's Mag mile and Los Angeles has higher end shopping than Chicago as well.
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the second busiest airport in the world, (after Atlanta), LAX and JFK don't even come close to O'Hare, one of the more renowned universities in the country, the University of Chicago, probably one of the closest equals to MIT in the technology department, and much much more. The cultural battle is closer than a lot of people want to admit.
JFK,LaGuardia,Newark combine for the largest airport system in the U.S. along with the 2nd most in the world in passenger traffic and #1 in the world in flights. What is so great about packing everything into one airport that leads the U.S. in flight delays when you can have multiple airports with flight patterns spread out more.
no it doesn't, I guess you missed the memo it was passed. Besides, other structures like Empire State and Golden Gate are more well known. It must not be that iconic when a company can just change the name rendering it's historical name recognition obsolete.
In the western hemisphere? What's taller?
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JFK,LaGuardia,Newark combine for the largest airport system in the U.S. along with the 2nd most in the world in passenger traffic and #1 in the world in flights. What is so great about packing everything into one airport that leads the U.S. in flight delays when you can have multiple airports with flight patterns spread out more.
Except all three (JFK, LaGuardia, Newark) aren't good airports, definitely no better than O'Hare. JFK used to be worse.
Chicago has the tallest building in the western hemisphere. I'm sure it'd ring a few bells.
No, NYC has the tallest building in the western hemisphere. NYC will have 6 of the 7 tallest once all buildings planned or u/c are completed.
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Not sure how global of a hit the newest Batman movies were, (Dark Knight Trilogy) but the first and second ones were filmed mostly in Chicago.
No, the first one was filmed mostly in Pittsburgh. And the third one was filmed mostly in Detroit. So Pittsburgh and Detroit are global cities because a famous movie filmed there?
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the most modern and second largest skyline in the country,
No, obviously Miami and many Sunbelt cities have more modern skylines than Chicago. There's relatively little current highrise construction in Chicago compared to cities like Miami or, especially, NYC.
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high end shopping only eclipsed by 5th Avenue in NYC,
No, NYC has many, many streets more desirable for retail than anything in Chicago. (Fifth, Madison, Park, 57th, SoHo, Meatpacking, Tribeca, Columbus Circle, etc.) LA, SF, Boston, DC, and Miami all have higher average retail rents than Chicago, and LA, Miami and SF (and obviously NYC) all have more luxury stores.
If you're a foreign luxury retailer, the order of U.S. luxury markets, in relative importance-
1. NYC
2. LA/Beverly Hills
3. Miami/South Florida
SF is probably 4th, and Chicago may be 5th.
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the second busiest airport in the world, (after Atlanta), LAX and JFK don't even come close to O'Hare,
Because Chicago only has one big airport, and because Chicago, like Atlanta, is a big transfer hub. Places like NYC and LA have far more airport traffic, it's just divided into more airports, and it tends to be destination traffic rather than more transfers, as in Chicago and Atlanta.
And you're wrong anyways about overall airport traffic. LAX does come close to ORD. And JFK destroys ORD in terms of international traffic and % destination traffic.
1 WTC is taller (1776). 225 W. 57th will be taller (1550). The planned Shvo Tower (no height yet, but 100 floors) will probably be taller. 6 of the 7 tallest will be in NYC.
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Except all three (JFK, LaGuardia, Newark) aren't good airports, definitely no better than O'Hare. JFK used to be worse.
O'Hare isn't really a nice airport either.
Not sure why this point is relevant to a discussion of relative importance of air hubs, as if Indy (which has a beautiful airport) is more important than London Heathrow (of which four of five terminals are dumps).
Except all three (JFK, LaGuardia, Newark) aren't good airports, definitely no better than O'Hare. JFK used to be worse.
1 WTC passed it this year. They all have shorter flight delays than O'Hare. O'Hare is #1 in U.S. for flight delays. It isn't that any of them are great, but having a large airport for connecting flights was nothing to boast about in the first place to assert one's city as culturally iconic. Similar to saying this is where they filmed Batman, could substitute Transformers also...or Public Enemies (A box office flop but great cinematography)
Woops, I see these were already answered.
Not sure who this Woodward1 guy is but I like his thinking... I could have posted the exact same stuff.
Chicago is a great city but by no means is it more culturally iconic than Los Angeles.
By roof height, 1 WTC is shorter. It's only a really narrow spire that makes it taller. Roof height of 1 WTC is exactly the same as the previous one, which must be intentional.
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