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View Poll Results: Most Livable Downtown?
Seattle 22 16.79%
San Francisco 27 20.61%
Los Angeles 4 3.05%
Denver 5 3.82%
Philadelphia 40 30.53%
D.C. 5 3.82%
Atlanta 6 4.58%
Houston 0 0%
Minneapolis 7 5.34%
Other 15 11.45%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta...starting to regret it
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Midtown ATL is more my style.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Most livable

Manhattan
Chicago
Portland
Denver
San Diego
Philadelphia

*Note: I didn't include Dt. Seattle since it's such as problematic downtown with crime and other social issues. As For San Francisco, it's not yet a livable downtown since there aren't many housing downtown but getting some as we speak.
Really? I didn't know Seattle's downtown have issues going on in relation to crime and other social problems. Of course, granted, I've never been to Seattle.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Most livable

Manhattan
Chicago
Portland
Denver
San Diego
Philadelphia

*Note: I didn't include Dt. Seattle since it's such as problematic downtown with crime and other social issues. As For San Francisco, it's not yet a livable downtown since there aren't many housing downtown but getting some as we speak.
What??? No it isn't, Seattle one of the safest downtowns in the U.S. Especially for a major city! There are homeless in Seattle as in every city but the city is trying very hard to "eliminate homelessness." And San Francisco is so densely packed with people! You're bonkers dude!
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Most livable

Manhattan
Chicago
Portland
Denver
San Diego
Philadelphia

*Note: I didn't include Dt. Seattle since it's such as problematic downtown with crime and other social issues. As For San Francisco, it's not yet a livable downtown since there aren't many housing downtown but getting some as we speak.
LOL Seattle DT crime did you compare crime stats. I lived downtown 10 years recently moved never had a problem. Seattle has a low violent crime rate only property crime is high like care break ins.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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What??? No it isn't, Seattle one of the safest downtowns in the U.S. Especially for a major city! There are homeless in Seattle as in every city but the city is trying very hard to "eliminate homelessness." And San Francisco is so densely packed with people! You're bonkers dude!
I wouldn't let him bother you. The dude is a little much. I would agree that DT Seattle is probably one of the safer downtowns.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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LOL Seattle DT crime did you compare crime stats. I lived downtown 10 years recently moved never had a problem. Seattle has a low violent crime rate only property crime is high like care break ins.
What world are you living in? Haven't you been paying attention to the news lately? It's on the headline on your local news for the last month if not a whole year. There have been beatings, gunshots and mugging downtown. I'll touch base a little later on this. This downtown has crime issues and homeless issues. Get real!
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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A church is holding a community meeting on the crime issues in Downtown Seattle. When did that happen in my hometown of St. Louis? Not that I can recall. Just recently, Phil Eaton, the former president of Seattle Pacific University declared on the editorial section of Seattle's local newspaper that "Downtown Seattle is a broken city" with stabbings, shooting and beating are nearly an everyday occurrence, and the need to figure a way to stop these violence and do with all the social issues here. His wife is so scared to walk the streets of Downtown Seattle. I've personally feel uncomfortable to walk the streets of this downtown since the thugs and homeless people are super aggressive and very rude, which gives you rough feel of this downtown. This downtown can be intimidating!
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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What world are you living in? Haven't you been paying attention to the news lately? It's on the headline on your local news for the last month if not a whole year. There have been beatings, gunshots and mugging downtown. I'll touch base a little later on this. This downtown has crime issues and homeless issues. Get real!
What world are we living in? Clearly a very different vantage point and a less fearful one from what you're seeing, that's for sure as most are disagreeing with you and for good reason. I lived in Seattle for 5 years and went downtown often. Never once was I affected by or ever witnessed any iota of crime there. Is crime happening there? Probably (like any big city), does it affect me? No, not at all and I don't exude fear of it either. As to getting real, for most everyday people it's not much of an issue there. Homelessness is a problem there yes, and a very serious one. As to being affected by violent crime, no not really, can't be any worse than any of the other cities that you listed.

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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Really? I didn't know Seattle's downtown have issues going on in relation to crime and other social problems. Of course, granted, I've never been to Seattle.
Yep, it's no joke. This city downtown is out of control with thugs running the streets, seriously. They say the statistic is down but it sure doesn't feel that way. People are getting shot, getting stabbed and beaten quite often. They are trying to quell the violence downtown, but it's going to take time if it is going to be successful. The panhandlers are super aggressive and very rude and impatience. They are building a lot of housing in this downtown. This downtown is still booming with highrise residential/hotel and headquarters for Amazon.com. A lot of the growth is taking place in Denny's Triangle and Lake Union neighborhoods, which is an irony compared to what going on with low level and some high level crime going on downtown. It's threatening the future of Downtown Seattle. Right now, it's not livable if you don't want to live in fear. There are also some spotty and shady areas of Downtown Seattle. Hopefully, they can tie this downtown with Lake Union/Denny's Triangle and Belltown together and deal with these social issues. Then, maybe Downtown Seattle will be livable.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Oh no Sour Cream, a couple of my friends are about to leave El Gaucho and walk home. Is it too dangerous? Should we get a police officer to escort them home?
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