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View Poll Results: Most Livable Downtown?
Seattle 22 16.79%
San Francisco 27 20.61%
Los Angeles 4 3.05%
Denver 5 3.82%
Philadelphia 40 30.53%
D.C. 5 3.82%
Atlanta 6 4.58%
Houston 0 0%
Minneapolis 7 5.34%
Other 15 11.45%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-23-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: The City
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Good Grief! I LIVE here. I watch the local news every morning and when I get home - For 22 years! I spend half my day downtown. I know what's going on - do you?

The cream has soured, no reason to reply.

I will say that most DTs with activity are very safe Philly is considered an unsafe city but a recent report came out that shows that 4% of the population their network contribute to over 90% of violent crime. Seattle is safe as are alomsot all DTs with significant activity

I live in CC and am more afraid in small apalachian towns than I ever am in big city downtowns
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Finger Lakes
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The cream has soured, no reason to reply.

I will say that most DTs with activity are very safe Philly is considered an unsafe city but a recent report came out that shows that 4% of the population their network contribute to over 90% of violent crime. Seattle is safe as are alomsot all DTs with significant activity

I live in CC and am more afraid in small apalachian towns than I ever am in big city downtowns
I agree. Never been to Philly, but I have been to Cleveland (a much maligned city) Boston, NYC, and SF. Surprisingly, DT Cleveland felt quite safe day or night. It's the neighborhoods that one need use more caution. I think because most city centers are quite safe, when a violent crime does happen, it's so shocking that it get's more media attention than say in other city nabes.

PS. For the record...while Boston's not on the list, it would be in my top tier as a livable DT.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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Good Grief! I LIVE here. I watch the local news every morning and when I get home - For 22 years! I spend half my day downtown. I know what's going on - do you?
Obviously, you're not panicking for some reasons. I would if I were you. This is a broken downtown for now with all the disorders. It's, not in my book, livable, period. I may go visit Downtown Seattle in a few years if things change for the better and the police being able to put a lid on this city's problems.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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The cream has soured, no reason to reply.

I will say that most DTs with activity are very safe Philly is considered an unsafe city but a recent report came out that shows that 4% of the population their network contribute to over 90% of violent crime. Seattle is safe as are alomsot all DTs with significant activity

I live in CC and am more afraid in small apalachian towns than I ever am in big city downtowns
I'm sour cream for something. That's my name here.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Finger Lakes
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Obviously, you're not panicking for some reasons. I would if I were you. This is a broken downtown for now with all the disorders. It's, not in my book, livable, period. I may go visit Downtown Seattle in a few years if things change for the better and the police being able to put a lid on this city's problems.
That's the thing - it's your book and that's fine for you. Not everyone shares your opinion. We will simply have to agree to disagree - cheers.
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Old 11-25-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yeah I would put Boston/Philly/SF all above Chicago as far as a livable downtown goes, they all seem to have more of a residential neighborhood feel, though Chicago's DT is obviously larger, as it does more neighborhood options outside DT or the DT Core.
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Old 11-25-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I voted Los Angeles because it has plenty of amenities and perfect weather.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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I voted Los Angeles because it has plenty of amenities and perfect weather.
Perfect weather, yes. The amount of amenities that Boston/SF/or even Seattle has? Not yet, maybe in 10 years.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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I don't think I've ever felt safer in a downtown than in Seattle. Seriously, what a beautiful place. I can't wait to go back. I think it's quite hilarious that Sour Cream keeps carrying on with absolute certainty how dangerous and broken downtown Seattle is, but has yet to present even one fact or story to back this up.

Back on topic, I agree that Boston and Portland really need to be included in this poll. However, even with those choices, I'd still likely pick Philadelphia and (gasp!) Seattle.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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I ranked these downtowns in my opinion, giving four points to 1st place, 3 for second, 2 for third, and one for fourth and ranked them below. The winner is San Francisco.

COL: Houston> Minneapolis> Atlanta> Philly
Attractions: DC > SF > Philly > Seattle
Transportation: D.C. > SF > Boston > Atlanta
Parks: SF > Portland > Boston > Minneapolis
Crime: Minneapolis > Denver > Seattle > SF
Education: Boston > Minneapolis > DC > Philly
Food: SF > Boston > Atlanta > Philly
Entertainment: Minneapolis > SF> Philly > DC

Total:
SF 17
Minneapolis 15
Boston 14
DC 11
Philly 7
Atlanta 5
Houston 4
Denver 3
Portland 3
Seattle 3
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