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View Poll Results: Most Livable Downtown?
Seattle 22 16.79%
San Francisco 27 20.61%
Los Angeles 4 3.05%
Denver 5 3.82%
Philadelphia 40 30.53%
D.C. 5 3.82%
Atlanta 6 4.58%
Houston 0 0%
Minneapolis 7 5.34%
Other 15 11.45%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-28-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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Lol @ those comments on that article. "Seattle is going the way of Detroit". People are so ridiculous..."the moment more minorities or specifically black move into a city, the city is going the way of Detroit". That's how those commentators thinks.
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Old 11-28-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Tulsa Oklahoma, a city that is surprisingly very nice - for those of you who've never been there - has a very pretty, walkable, fun, safe, affordable, livable downtown.
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Old 11-28-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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100,000 people in DT Seattle? No.

Here is a list of cities by their Commercial Downtown Population, one half mile around Downtown, and one mile around Downtown

Midtown Manhattan, NY
Commercial Downtown
78,579
Half Mile
378,553
One Mile
586,652

Downtown Manhattan, NY
Commercial Downtown
65,714
Half Mile
148,396
One mile
173,179

Center City - Philadelphia, PA
Commercial Downtown
57,239
Half Mile
107,853
One Mile
170,467

Downtown Chicago, IL
Commercial Downtown
53,832
Half Mile
101,885
One Mile
144,051

Downtown San Francisco, CA
Commercial Downtown
52,008
Half Mile
117,312
One Mile
134,312

Downtown Seattle, WA
Commercial Downtown
42,423
Half Mile
86,427
One Mile
119,590

Downtown Miami, FL
Commercial Downtown
40,414
Half Mile
90,142
One Mile
140,889

Downtown Boston, MA
Commercial Downtown
33,828
Half Mile
77,610
One Mile
170,934

http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf
Downtown Seattle isn't a round or square city its long narrow downtown it has water on three sides . Some people who dont include First Hill ,Capitol Hill, or Queen Anne put downtown Seattle at 60,000 but looking at google earth you cant tell where it starts or ends . All the neighborhoods are dense mid and highrise neighborhoods all connected to the main commercial core. Lol when Philadelphia did its comparison to Seattle it used 10 year old data reports. Anyway I was talking presently now Seattles downtown population. Seattle is currently growing 13,000 people a year and downtown is adding 5 to 7 thousand new housing units a year downtown.
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Old 11-28-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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So much ignorance when it comes to people who don't live in Seattle try to talk about Seattle. Jealous people are just sick of hearing about how Seattle is so great, probably I'm a well-traveled man and Seattle is easily one of the finest cities by my experience. It's beautiful, clean, and is practically free of anything "ghetto" like you would find in nearly any other city. Downtown is polished and safe. There are some homeless, but otherwise, people here are just smarter and "ghetto" or gang-cultured people are virtually nonexistent here.

I can go on and on, but essentially, anyone who visits this city can easily see why it's so amazing.
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Old 11-28-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Downtown Seattle isn't a round or square city its long narrow downtown it has water on three sides . Some people who dont include First Hill ,Capitol Hill, or Queen Anne put downtown Seattle at 60,000 but looking at google earth you cant tell where it starts or ends . All the neighborhoods are dense mid and highrise neighborhoods all connected to the main commercial core. Lol when Philadelphia did its comparison to Seattle it used 10 year old data reports. Anyway I was talking presently now Seattles downtown population. Seattle is currently growing 13,000 people a year and downtown is adding 5 to 7 thousand new housing units a year downtown.
Hmmmm... ok. So I post statistics and you provide what exactly? Not even Center City, Philadelphia has a Downtown Population of 100,000 and Philly has many more Downtown Residents than Seattle. I'm not saying those numbers are 100% accurate but they give a general idea of the number of residents in the Downtown area.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Hmmmm... ok. So I post statistics and you provide what exactly? Not even Center City, Philadelphia has a Downtown Population of 100,000 and Philly has many more Downtown Residents than Seattle. I'm not saying those numbers are 100% accurate but they give a general idea of the number of residents in the Downtown area.
The thing with Downtown Seattle is its downtown vibe, infrastructure, and boundaries and overall urban core of density about 10 years ago went as far south as the stadiums, east to I-5 and north to about halfway into Belltown. In the last 10 years urban infill has aggressively been built out into the rest of Belltown, past Denny Way and up into South Lake Union. This was a large area of some 25+ square blocks areas amount of what was once underutilized areas of parking lots, and low rise warehouses and transitioning to very remarkable amount of new midrise and highrise construction. The dynamic of downtown reaches well into of Capital Hill and Lower Queen Anne.

Everybody knows SF, Boston, and Philly have had well established urban density for eons and sunbelt cities have more low density sprawl. In my opinion Seattle is transitioning into a higher density and more urban tier at its core more rapidly than any other city in the country. It's core is being built out more and more and it had very good bones to start with.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Seatt...44.66,,0,-5.68

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Seatt...,149.4,,0,-9.3

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Seatt...,0,-14.26&z=17

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Seatt...29.46,,0,-0.21

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Old 11-28-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The thing with Downtown Seattle is its downtown vibe, infrastructure, and boundaries about 10 years ago went as far south as the stadiums, east to I-5 and north to about halfway into Belltown. In the last 10 years urban infill has aggressively been built out into the rest of Belltown, past Denny Way and up into South Lake Union. This was a large area of some 25+ square blocks areas amount of what was once underutilized areas of lowrise, parking lots, and low rise warehouses and transitioning to very remarkable amount of new midrise and highrise construction. The dynamic of downtown reaches well into of Capital Hill and Lower Queen Anne.

Everybody knows SF, Boston, and Philly have had well established urban density for eons and sunbelt cities have more low density sprawl. In my opinion Seattle is transitioning into a higher density and more urban tier more rapidly than any other city in the country. It's core is being built out more and more and it had very good bones to start with.
For sure. Seattle's Downtown is beautiful and is truly transforming into a top tier Downtown joining the top 6 (NYC, Chicago, SF, Philly, Boston and DC). I have no doubt about that, just doubting your 100,000 people in Downtown number.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Downtown Seattle isn't a round or square city its long narrow downtown it has water on three sides . Some people who dont include First Hill ,Capitol Hill, or Queen Anne put downtown Seattle at 60,000 but looking at google earth you cant tell where it starts or ends . All the neighborhoods are dense mid and highrise neighborhoods all connected to the main commercial core. Lol when Philadelphia did its comparison to Seattle it used 10 year old data reports. Anyway I was talking presently now Seattles downtown population. Seattle is currently growing 13,000 people a year and downtown is adding 5 to 7 thousand new housing units a year downtown.
The report (where that information comes from) is based on 2010 data. They defined "downtown" based on job density. It extends downtown north into lower Queen Anne up to Mercer St. It seems to include First Hill as well, but not Capitol Hill. It's explicitly not based on the density of residential apartments.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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The problem is most people think Downtown is essentially where all of the office towers are. I think people confuse CBD with Downtown.

It seems people on here are including urban neighborhoods that surround the CBD and calling it all downtown. I mean, it's similar to what Philly does..
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