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View Poll Results: Most Livable Downtown?
Seattle 22 16.67%
San Francisco 27 20.45%
Los Angeles 4 3.03%
Denver 5 3.79%
Philadelphia 41 31.06%
D.C. 5 3.79%
Atlanta 6 4.55%
Houston 0 0%
Minneapolis 7 5.30%
Other 15 11.36%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:59 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Outside of New York and Chicago which US city has the most livable downtown/urban core?

-Cost if Living
-Attractions
-Transportation
-Recreation/parks
-Crime
-Education
-Food
-Entertainment
-QOL
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:14 PM
 
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I'll only rank the top 4 downtowns. The others aren't really in the race for this crown.

COL: Philly > DC > Seattle > SF
Attractions: SF > DC > Philly > Seattle
Transportation: D.C. > Philly > SF > Seattle
Parks: D.C. > Seattle > Philly > SF
Crime: Seattle > SF > DC > Philly
Education: Philly > DC > Seattle > SF
Food: SF > Seattle > Philly > DC
Entertainment: SF > Seattle > Philly > DC
QOL: Extreme subjective...won't rank

Winner: SF Runner Up: Toss up between Seattle and Philly
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Oakland
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I voted San Francisco because it is just more my style but I live in the Seattle area and love everyday of it. They are both great places
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The City
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Liveable is completely subjective really

All are liveable, the rest is personal preferance
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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I'd pick Seattle. If I don't feel like dining out, I could walk to get groceries, stop at Pike Place Market and make a good meal at home, or run errands, stop at City Target, it can all be done in downtown. I also really like the selection of retail downtown Seattle has and it's not an overwhelming ratrace there. Seattle has my favorite big city downtown in the US.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: The City
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Saw this link in another thread but a decent pictorial sample of the Philly DT

Don't Want To Spend Another Fall in PHILADELPHIA - SkyscraperPage Forum

For me it would be
Philly/SF/DC as tops - pick your poison
Then LA - just like LA better thn Seattle so is the trumping factor
Seattle

then the others

To Cap - (No City Target yet anyway) and Seattle does have better retail DT overall but the RTM is quite nice as well. I prefer ll other aspects sans retail in Philly over Seattle
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Saw this link in another thread but a decent pictorial sample of the Philly DT

Don't Want To Spend Another Fall in PHILADELPHIA - SkyscraperPage Forum

For me it would be
Philly/SF/DC as tops - pick your poison
Then LA - just like LA better thn Seattle so is the trumping factor
Seattle

then the others

To Cap - (No City Target yet anyway) and Seattle does have better retail DT overall but the RTM is quite nice as well. I prefer ll other aspects sans retail in Philly over Seattle
Kid, fwiw Center City in Phily is my favorite on the East Coast (yes, I like it even more than my hometown Boston). Curious though, what is it about DT LA that trumps Seattle? Especially in terms of living? No need to explain the preference for the city as a whole as I get that, but DT LA?

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Old 11-20-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Why are Chicago and NYC excluded
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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My thoughts on most improved downtown that has come a long way over the last 10-15 years is downtown Denver. I could handle living there as it has evolved well beyond the 16th street mall. LoDo has some great residential options, even a bit of character. They have a very attractive large park along the little river/creek at Confluence (I think it use to be a vacant industrial wasterland prior), made good cohesive connections to the evolving Highland neighborhood across the 25 freeway, nightlife has increased downtown over the years, and they are adding a large grocery store near LoDo pretty soon.

All that and big additions to public transit with more light rail lines coming into Union Station, and in a few years there will be commuter rail service to the Airport. A big well done for downtown Denver, but of course the cost of living there has rapidly increased within the last few years.

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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I think NYC and Chicago don't necessarily need to be excluded. I would choose Center City over both in terms of liveability, even though I might visit NYC, Chicago and SF's downtown more, but neither of these three have a "neighborhood" feel to them. I guess it depends on your preference. Portland should be on this list also. Its the only other downtown I'd consider living in. I've never been to Denver either.
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