Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-23-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
9,067 posts, read 15,794,327 times
Reputation: 2980

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by 599MIA View Post
You read my post wrong. I said the east coast can now trade with Australia, Asia as they expand Psnama canal. Miami is closer to Africa, South America, Europe with its east coast location. Miami to begin port dredge in readiness for Panama canal expansion

Miami is cheap to do business and we are 9th largest convention city. We are the most diverse city in Latin America so business deals are in Miami. Blockbusters not ours FYI.

You drinkin that koolaide just now. Atlanta doesn't mean a thing to the global community
Miami is NOT the only city that has a port that is readining for Panama Canal expansion.
And Atlanta is strategically in a good place that will augment that expansion:

Quote:
In Savannah, Georgia, the river is being deepened while the port of Charleston in neighboring South Carolina is also expanding. In addition to trans-Pacific eastbound cargo growth, the Global Services Regional Manager of AIT's Atlanta Global Service Center is expecting the US to Europe and US to Asia export LCL (less than container load) consolidation markets to grow as a result of the increased capacity.
East Coast Ports Prepare for Megaships
Quote:
While tourists may know Savannah for its historic homes, ancient azaleas and leisurely charm, its port based in Garden City — about a 10-minute drive from downtown — also happens to be the second-largest container port on the East Coast.
Atlanta is an important rail hub.So where do you think those containers will go once they are loaded off/on the ships?

Miami's port is not even in the top 10 in the U.S.

Atlanta is the 10th largest in the United Sates for cargo and 30th in the world.(Airport)

Atlanta does not mean a thing to the global community?Lets pair up a few things that Atlanta has that are globally important:

Invesco-One of the Top asset manegament companies in the world.(There are at least two other companies on the list also)

Intercontenental Exchange(owner of NYSE)
C.D.C. (Centers for Disease Control and prevention)
C.A.R.E. International
The Carter Center
Georgia Institute of Technology -10th overall engineering and technology university and 2nd for public U.S. engineering and technology university. The rankings listed the top 50 schools, with the USA taking 6 of the top 10. Times Higher Education also listed Georgia Tech as the 27th overall school in the world

So tell me what Miami has that is more globally connected.I wait patiently for your rebuttal.

Last edited by afonega1; 01-23-2014 at 07:21 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-23-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
9,067 posts, read 15,794,327 times
Reputation: 2980
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmac9wr View Post
You realize that poll is base on High Net Worth Individuals (HNWI), right? It has nothing to do with overall economic power. Here are some facts about these cities:

Population
Philadelphia: 6,018,800
Miami: 5,762,717
Atlanta: 5,457,831
Boston: 4,640,802

GDP
Philadelphia: $364 billion
Boston: $336.2 billion
Atlanta: $294.6 billion
Miami: $274.1 billion

So despite being the second largest city in this comparison, it has the lowest GDP. It also has the lowest per capita GDP. I've included the USA's per capita GDP just to show you where they all stand compared to the rest of the nation.

Per capita
USA: $52,839
Boston: $72,451 (37.1% above avg)
Philadelphia: $60,479 (14.5% above)
Atlanta: $53,975 (2.2% above)
Miami: $47,565 (10% below)

Education Levels are also very poor in the area. Here's a comparison (as of 2010) of people over 25 years of age with:

Bachelor's Degree:
National Average: 31.5%
(US Rank) 6. Boston 43% (total number 1,335,276)
16. Atlanta 34.1% (1,161,379)
22. Philadelphia 33.1% (1,319,126)
62. Miami 28.1% (1,088,935)

Graduate Degree:
National Average: 11.8%
4. Boston 19% (589,112)
18. Philadelphia 13.1% (519,992)
31. Atlanta 11.8% (401,905)
54. Miami 10.4% (404,362)

Miami is much stronger with its cultural/social/vacation offerings than it is with its economic ones...economically it can hold its own against Atlanta (though it's still behind), but it does very poorly when compared to Boston & Philadelphia. Also take into account the high knowledge-based industries in places like Boston & Philadelphia, and you'll see their economic contributions are far greater than that of Miami's.
This is exactly what I have been getting at all along!How in the world can Miami be above any of these cities with such low rankings in important criterias?

Knowledge based industries are the future as well as now.Miami is basically coasting off its tourism industry which is phenomenal.
Everything else,it just cannot compete.The truth is SOOO obvious.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Denver
6,625 posts, read 14,456,812 times
Reputation: 4201
Quote:
Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
This is exactly what I have been getting at all along!How in the world can Miami be above any of these cities with such low rankings in important criterias?

Knowledge based industries are the future as well as now.Miami is basically coasting off its tourism industry which is phenomenal.
Everything else,it just cannot compete.The truth is SOOO obvious.
It really is. Miami offers a lot in terms of having such a unique, Latin-dominated culture in the US, so there are cool restaurants, cafes, etc...but it's really about tourism for the most part. When looking at economic/overall importance, it can't compete with other major cities whose benchmark industries are things like logistics, biotech & pharma, finance, or education.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 07:46 AM
 
176 posts, read 174,901 times
Reputation: 192
Congratulations guys. You've now spent more than 30 pages predominantly ripping Miami's latest positioning on the list where it's been an Alpha (-) since at least 2000. A list that many here feel is inaccurate and bogus. Such waste of energy not to mention Google fingers smack of envy and insecurity.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 07:53 AM
 
1,512 posts, read 2,363,845 times
Reputation: 1285
I wonder why Miami is being seen as the exclusive spot in terms of international connections. There's no lie that Miami is a major center for SA and many South Americans (particularly from Venezuela and Brazil) are coming over because it might be more business friendly. But Miami is not the only city close to Europe or Africa. The Northeastern cities have better connect with the European cities in terms of business, education, politics, etc. and the whole East coast can benefit from Africa. The West coast is also closer to Russia, the countries of East Asia, Australia and Mexico. Therefore, more connects can form with those regions if they haven't already.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 07:54 AM
 
1,512 posts, read 2,363,845 times
Reputation: 1285
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobchbud1 View Post
Congratulations guys. You've now spent more than 30 pages predominantly ripping Miami's latest positioning on the list where it's been an Alpha (-) since at least 2000. A list that many here feel is inaccurate and bogus. Such waste of energy not to mention Google fingers smack of envy and insecurity.
You must be new to the Internet. Specifically forums. Specifically these forums.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:04 AM
 
176 posts, read 174,901 times
Reputation: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordHomunculus View Post
You must be new to the Internet. Specifically forums. Specifically these forums.
I've actually been a member longer than you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:12 AM
 
1,512 posts, read 2,363,845 times
Reputation: 1285
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobchbud1 View Post
I've actually been a member longer than you
That is true. But it seems like you're not even a frequent user. It's like a new experience for you every time you decide to partake in these forums.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Denver
6,625 posts, read 14,456,812 times
Reputation: 4201
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobchbud1 View Post
Congratulations guys. You've now spent more than 30 pages predominantly ripping Miami's latest positioning on the list where it's been an Alpha (-) since at least 2000. A list that many here feel is inaccurate and bogus. Such waste of energy not to mention Google fingers smack of envy and insecurity.
FWIW, almost none of the talking about Miami has been about its positioning on this list. It's mostly (at least in my case) been refuting strange claims made by Miamians.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
4,836 posts, read 12,005,791 times
Reputation: 2600
Quote:
Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
Miami's port is not even in the top 10 in the U.S.

Atlanta is the 10th largest in the United Sates for cargo and 30th in the world.(Airport)
If you look at Miami right above it is Port Everglades which is 20miles north of the Port of Miami. So while the individual ports are not huge, the region is fairly big. And when speaking airports Miami has the 2nd most amount of International Passengers in the U.S. only JFK has more. Miami has the largest amount of international air cargo in the country, it is number 4 in air cargo in the country and number 11 in the world.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top