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Old 01-29-2014, 10:49 PM
 
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How is that true AND SEVERAL LARGER CITIES with larger populations and gdp rank lower than others.
In what world is Miami equal to Boston?

Atlanta is barely in there with Boston..No question Boston should be where it is.So Miami should be there over cities like Philly?
Ok.Whatever.Everyone has there own opinions but that aint mine and it aint changing
How is Atlanta "barely" in there with Boston"?

Boston GDP =$454 billion USD
Atlanta GDP =$296 billion USD
Miami GDP = $ 287 billion USD

or basically the Atlanta GDP basically out weighs Miami by $8.8 billion a year. There is a big difference between Boston's $454 billion USD and Atlanta's $ 296 billion USD to the tune of $158 billion USD.

Miami's GDP is closer to Atlanta's by only $8.8 billion and Miami does it without all of the Fortune 500 companies Atlanta likes to brag about.

Just some food for thought! A US based company will do better financially catering to Americans since we do have one of the highest incomes in the world. Hence a Coca-Cola or a Home Depot will do better because we can afford their products.

I will ask you a Question? Why is Boston so wealthy? Financial Services , higher education, medicine as in healthcare.
What does Philly produce anymore? Comcast, Financial services as well?
They appeal to a "domestic " consumer base whereas Miami has always looked overseas.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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How is Atlanta "barely" in there with Boston"?

Boston GDP =$454 billion USD
Atlanta GDP =$296 billion USD
Miami GDP = $ 287 billion USD

or basically the Atlanta GDP basically out weighs Miami by $8.8 billion a year. There is a big difference between Boston's $454 billion USD and Atlanta's $ 296 billion USD to the tune of $158 billion USD.

Miami's GDP is closer to Atlanta's by only $8.8 billion and Miami does it without all of the Fortune 500 companies Atlanta likes to brag about.

Just some food for thought! A US based company will do better financially catering to Americans since we do have one of the highest incomes in the world. Hence a Coca-Cola or a Home Depot will do better because we can afford their products.

I will ask you a Question? Why is Boston so wealthy? Financial Services , higher education, medicine as in healthcare.
What does Philly produce anymore? Comcast, Financial services as well?
They appeal to a "domestic " consumer base whereas Miami has always looked overseas.
How many times have I said its not about GDP alone!Obviously its not.Otherwise why is Miami an Alpha like Boston which is what I was referring to.

The numbers you are refering to is by CSA from what another poster posted.
The whole thread we have beeen using MSA and now you wanna switch up and use CSA.

Most of Coca Cola's growth is pUTSIDE of the U.S.Its the most recognozed import the world over!Why mention coke?
And UPS?Do I need to tell you how big it is overseas?
What about Novelis?Newell-Rubbermaid?
These are multinatinal companies based in Atlanta that has worldwide products.

Did you not read that Atlanta was 4th in North America in number of international corporation headquarters?80 percent of America’s pharmaceutical firms, as well as 80 percent of the world’s major biotech companies, are located within a two-hour drive of the city.


What does Philly produce?GlaxoSmithKline, Boeing and it has a major port that has major refineries.
Those are some of the companies that have major operations in Philly.Philly is a leading world biotech center and pharmeceuticals.
80 percent of America’s pharmaceutical firms, as well as 80 percent of the world’s major biotech companies, are located within a two-hour drive of the city. - See more at: Facts & Figures - Philadelphia - Growth & Development - Pennsylvania
80 percent of the worlds biotech companies are located within the Philly area

Boston financial sector has world wide reach.Not to mention the education sector is ground zero for thousands of students who come from overseas.MIT,Harvard.

Boston is a center for information technology.

How does Miami compare to what you listed about Boston, Atlanta or Philly?What does Miami export that the others do?I already posted a fact how Atlanta ranks as one of the nations top exporter cities.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I will ask you a Question? Why is Boston so wealthy? Financial Services , higher education, medicine as in healthcare.
What does Philly produce anymore? Comcast, Financial services as well?
They appeal to a "domestic " consumer base whereas Miami has always looked overseas.
This is pretty far off.

As has been mentioned earlier in this thread, Boston & Philadelphia are massive life sciences hubs. Between Boston & Philadelphia, there are many US HQs and major research centers for biotech & pharmaceutical companies from all over the world. These companies include, but are not limited to, GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, Novartis AG, Novo Nordisk, Shire PLC, Takeda, Sanofi Aventis, Teva Pharmaceuticals, Merck Serono, and Roche. This doesn't include the pharma & biotech companies which are headquartered in the region and have worldwide offices. A few include Johnson & Johnson, Merck & Co (which is totally different than Merck Serono; a Swiss Co), Bristol Myers-Squib, Biogen Idec, Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Cubist, etc.

Also, financial services is a global business. I'm not sure why you referred to it as something that only deals with domestic clients or investments.
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Old 01-30-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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OMFG that nose candy capital of MIA has some out of control posts!!!!!!
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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However, his public admission statement that I posted earlier as well as these, show what the Alpha-Beta-Gamma stratas really are and how to properly interpret them for what they are. Which is NOT a ranking of the world's most powerful cities. Just the world's most important economies to London.
If you say this in the sense that 'the world's most important economies to London are those which house a lot of service firms', then I agree. Taken from GaWC (source):

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As described in Chapter 1, it is impossible to directly measure the myriad of service flows between cities in the contemporary global economy. Thus we rely on indirect measures derived from the size and functions of offices within individual firms' office networks. This is modelled as the interlocking network model that has guided the data collection. Here we focus upon 175 advanced producer service firms in the data. These are made up of the top firms in five service sectors: 75 financial services firms (including insurance); and 25 each from accounting, advertising, law and management consultancy. The offices of these firms have been scored from zero to five across 525 cities depending on the importance of offices within cities (no office in a city scores zero). The result is an array of cities and firms in a 525 x 175 service matrix.
..further description here:

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In 2008, we carried out a much larger and complete data collection. To allow for future comparisons of city connectivities over time, a certain consistency in the data structure is required. The dynamic nature of the global economy, however, implies that the relevance of invoking the geography of the office networks of the initial GaWC 100 APS firms becomes increasingly problematic as time passes. Firms get liquidated, merge with other firms, are replaced by new firms whose global presence/importance rises, etc. Since measurement of differences should represent changing urban geographies rather than data collection change, APS firms were now chosen strictly by their ranking in lists of the largest firms in each sector. Overall, the number of firms was increased from 100 to 175. We combined the banking/finance and insurance categories from 2000 and included the top 75 such firms as ranked in the Forbes composite index, a measure that combines rankings for sales, profits, assets and market value lists. For the other four of the previously studied services – accountancy, advertising, law and management consultancy – we included the top 25 firms: for law the Chambers list of Corporate Law firms was used (Home - Chambers and Partners recommended lists of the world for advertising agency networks we used Advertising Age's ranking of ‘marketing organizations' by revenues (www.adage.com/images/random/lna2007); for accountancy firms' networks we used the ranking by revenues of World Accounting Intelligence (www.worldaccountingintelligence.com/); and for management consultancies we used the 2007 edition of the Vault Management & Strategy Consulting Survey, which ranks firms in terms of their ‘prestige' based on a large survey of professionals (Vault.com - Get the inside scoop on companies, schools, internships, jobs and more.). In all cases the lists of firms selected are the latest available at the planning of the research project in 2007 and these tended to be based upon 2006 rankings3. For all lists substitute firms were identified (ranked just below 75 and 25) to cover for situations where a firm had disappeared (e.g. been taken over) in the two years before the actual data collection in 2008. In addition, we carried out a thorough review of cities and added many new cities from emerging markets to create a list of 526.
If it is your belief that the bolded sources are biased because they were specifically picked to have London at the center, fair enough. You express yourself clearly enough that I assume you know a few things about scientific research, so surely you know that PJ Taylor starting out by asking the question "how important is London?" in 1997 does not imply that the 2012 ranking measures economic ties to London. For what it's worth, I'd like to know what other sectors have enough firms with offices in a sufficient number of cities to conduct a similar network analysis.
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Old 08-22-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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Salt Lake City has also hosted an Olympics. Does that mean anything to you?? Didn't think so.
Larger world cities host the Summer Olympics and resort cities host the Winter Olympics. Check up on that. I could have asked if that meant anything to you, but I don't want to be that sarcastic.
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Old 08-23-2014, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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How often are these rankings published?
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