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View Poll Results: Which city has the better downtown?
Los Angeles 35 21.21%
Seattle 89 53.94%
Portland 12 7.27%
San Diego 8 4.85%
Denver 15 9.09%
Salt Lake City 6 3.64%
Voters: 165. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-20-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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Well some people have different levels of what is acceptable. And I mean, in order to to easily get to and enjoy all parts of the city sans car on prompt time. Urban amenities wise, yes LA has plenty of that, don't think anybody has ever argued otherwise.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Well some people have different levels of what is acceptable. And I mean, in order to to easily get to and enjoy all parts of the city sans car on prompt time. Urban amenities wise, yes LA has plenty of that, don't think anybody has ever argued otherwise.
Its not hard, I've lived the lifestyle in Boston and LA outside DTLA, and found it easier to live an urban lifestyle in LA then Boston ( for my personal experience, YMMV). And that was in Hollywood. It is even easier in DTLA, the most urban neighborhood in LA. I get your gist, it is just an incorrect theory, especially for this part of LA.

Getting to all parts of the city without a car seems like it is taking to much importance, locals are just living their lives (and driving very little distance wise in the LA area). I think you are looking at it too much from a tourist stand point, where you want to hit all the parts of the city.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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Its not hard, I've lived the lifestyle in Boston and LA outside DTLA, and found it easier to live an urban lifestyle in LA then Boston ( for my personal experience, YMMV). And that was in Hollywood. It is even easier in DTLA, the most urban neighborhood in LA. I get your gist, it is just an incorrect theory, especially for this part of LA.

Getting to all parts of the city without a car seems like it is taking to much importance, locals are just living their lives (and driving very little distance wise in the LA area). I think you are looking at it too much from a tourist stand point, where you want to hit all the parts of the city.
That's a great point, growing up in LA most people stay in their bubbles since most things you need are nearby, plus who wants to deal with horrible traffic.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Wow I'd actually say Portland.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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That's a great point, growing up in LA most people stay in their bubbles since most things you need are nearby, plus who wants to deal with horrible traffic.
It's not just LA - this is the case with my friends in NYC and Chicago too (I mean isn't it the cliche that moving to Brooklyn from Manhattan is practically like moving across the country). If you live in a mega city you are not going to want or need to travel all over and across the city with regularity. Those that attempt to do so end up hating the place.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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Well some people have different levels of what is acceptable. And I mean, in order to to easily get to and enjoy all parts of the city sans car on prompt time. Urban amenities wise, yes LA has plenty of that, don't think anybody has ever argued otherwise.
Does one need to easily get to enjoy all parts of the city sans car on prompt time though? LA does have a lot of its highlights spread apart, but for many great parts of LA, you'll be able to get to and enjoy more diverse and possibly more interesting parts of the city sans car on prompt time than are available in most cities. LA, in that sense, is in pretty good company there with only NYC in the US that is substantially head and shoulders above the best parts of LA.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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Does one need to easily get to enjoy all parts of the city sans car on prompt time though? LA does have a lot of its highlights spread apart, but for many great parts of LA, you'll be able to get to and enjoy more diverse and possibly more interesting parts of the city sans car on prompt time than are available in most cities. LA, in that sense, is in pretty good company there with only NYC in the US that is substantially head and shoulders above the best parts of LA.
Why would the amenities being spread out be an issue to a traveler?

Honestly, Los Angeles is a city where people should look up where they're going to be and where they need to go before they leave for the airport to get there. It's 2014, why would someone intentionally plan an entire day driving from amenity to amenity spread across the metropolitan region?

What about grouping things, multiple things to each day, like by section of the city for each day you're staying, and scheduling what you want to see in each area, so you're ahead of time, so you know what to expect. Driving will be minimal, amount of time spent in traffic would be minimal, criticism will be minimal.

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