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What you described was certainly applicable to me—Cornell grad whose career began in SF (brought out for an interview and hired by a fellow alumnus). Great compact city with great restaurants, more green, great outdoors, and more grounded. What SF Bay Area lacked with beach it made up with Napa/Sonoma, Tahoe, Lake Berryessa, and Monterrey/Carmel.
While I became acclimated to a warm weather climate following a job transfer to SoCal (never lived in LA proper but spent quite a bit of time there—often on weekends for more excitement than OC offered), SF/Marin—city and mentality of the people—was much easier for this NY’er to adapt to and I was really sad to leave the area. SoCal just felt far more transient and/or “resort-ish” to me, almost “Groundhog Day” like—even though I lived there for a much longer period of time.
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Not everyone got this memo lol
There are certain demographic groups that will **always** pick SF over LA because of the career opportunities, far superior urban environment, far more concentrated cultural, dining, entertainment amenities etc.
This for example, has remained rather consistent for the past 40 years.
SF, 3000 miles from the east coast, draws more of grads from elite east coast schools than anywhere except NYC, while LA, the primary city on the west coast, appears to be an afterthought to this group.
So people will tend to gravitate to the kind of city that gives them the lifestyle they want.
I was in downtown LA on friday. It is no less seedy than SF. Lol
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I agree with you that LA has more and much better beaches but Stinson Beach in Marin is much closer to SF than Santa Cruz and you will definitely see your share of surfers directly west of SFO in Pacifica.
I agree with you that LA has more and much better beaches but Stinson Beach in Marin is much closer to SF than Santa Cruz and you will definitely see your share of surfers directly west of SFO in Pacifica.
What you described was certainly applicable to me—Cornell grad whose career began in SF (brought out for an interview and hired by a fellow alumnus). Great compact city with great restaurants, more green, great outdoors, and more grounded. What SF Bay Area lacked with beach it made up with Napa/Sonoma, Tahoe, Lake Berryessa, and Monterrey/Carmel.
While I became acclimated to a warm weather climate following a job transfer to SoCal (never lived in LA proper but spent quite a bit of time there—often on weekends for more excitement than OC offered), SF/Marin—city and mentality of the people—was much easier for this NY’er to adapt to and I was really sad to leave the area. SoCal just felt far more transient and/or “resort-ish” to me, almost “Groundhog Day” like—even though I lived there for a much longer period of time.
Yeah, SoCal has lots of great things that I love, but the Bay Area and LA Area totally attract different kinds of people and that's fine.
Just to reiterate my point:
Largest Contigious Clusters of Elite Zip
Codes defined by at least 7 in 10 adults have a
College Degree and the Average Income
exceed $120,000
1 Washington DC
2 East Manhattan
3 San Jose
4 Boston
5 Oakland
6 Bridgeport
7 Newark
8 Chicago
9 North of Los Angeles
10 Long Island
11 West Manhattan
12 Trenton
13 Philadelphia
14 San Diego
15 South of Los Angeles
Yeah, SoCal has lots of great things that I love, but the Bay Area and LA Area totally attract different kinds of people and that's fine.
Just to reiterate my point:
Largest Contigious Clusters of Elite Zip
Codes defined by at least 7 in 10 adults have a
College Degree and the Average Income
exceed $120,000
1 Washington DC
2 East Manhattan
3 San Jose
4 Boston
5 Oakland
6 Bridgeport
7 Newark
8 Chicago
9 North of Los Angeles
10 Long Island
11 West Manhattan
12 Trenton
13 Philadelphia
14 San Diego
15 South of Los Angeles
Both the Southern Peninsula and East Bay top any equivalent area of LA as far as a contiguous cluster of highly educated and affluent households.
That's pretty staggering considering how much larger LA is.
That is probably ou of date lol ... Because San Jose has gained a lot more 120k+ zipcodes, Boston has gained more than 15 since then due to the absorbent COL increases.I cant speak for LA, but SF Bay Area definitely gained over 20 more...
Yeah, SoCal has lots of great things that I love, but the Bay Area and LA Area totally attract different kinds of people and that's fine.
Just to reiterate my point:
Largest Contigious Clusters of Elite Zip
Codes defined by at least 7 in 10 adults have a
College Degree and the Average Income
exceed $120,000
1 Washington DC
2 East Manhattan
3 San Jose
4 Boston
5 Oakland
6 Bridgeport
7 Newark
8 Chicago
9 North of Los Angeles
10 Long Island
11 West Manhattan
12 Trenton
13 Philadelphia
14 San Diego
15 South of Los Angeles
It'll be interesting to see how much things change when it comes to which one is considered more urban once the regional connector and the Purple Line extension have had a few years of operation. Large parts of LA are certainly more "walkable" than they were when this topic was first made, but it was still in many ways a far cry from the large expanse of SF that's like that.
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Surprised Marin County and Greenwich, CT not up there.
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
Yeah, SoCal has lots of great things that I love, but the Bay Area and LA Area totally attract different kinds of people and that's fine.
Just to reiterate my point:
Largest Contigious Clusters of Elite Zip
Codes defined by at least 7 in 10 adults have a
College Degree and the Average Income
exceed $120,000
1 Washington DC
2 East Manhattan
3 San Jose
4 Boston
5 Oakland
6 Bridgeport
7 Newark
8 Chicago
9 North of Los Angeles
10 Long Island
11 West Manhattan
12 Trenton
13 Philadelphia
14 San Diego
15 South of Los Angeles
Surprised Marin County and Greenwich, CT not up there.
Greenwich is in the Bridgeport cluster
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The closest the Bay Area has to an actual beach is Santa Cruz a few hours away.
