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Old 05-23-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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In my opinion,

Overrated: Washington, D.C. I don't know why, but I just don't care for the city/metro. Lacks a certain je nais se quois when compared to the other Northeast cities. Nothing really wrong with it on paper, and I don't hate it--just don't care for it. Putting it in the overrated column solely based on its high CoL and lack of "something".

Underrated: Wilmington, Delaware. Homer pick here, but someone has to boost the little guys in the North like Wilmington lol. Outside of maybe 4-5 horrendous neighborhoods, an awesome little city with beautiful, historic neighborhoods. Also anchors a much larger metro that contains some of the most bucolic suburbs in the country. It's a shame that what little press we get focuses on the negatives (the Howard High School murder, for example) when there are so many more positives.

It also has arguably the best location in the entire corridor, with Baltimore an hour-ish to the south, DC two hours to the south, Philly 20-30 minutes to the north, NYC 2 hours to the north, an hour and a half to both the Delaware Beaches and Jersey Shore/Atlantic City in the south/east, 5 hours to both Pittsburgh and Virginia Beach in the west/south, and 6 hours to Boston in the north. And all of these cities, save for VA Beach and Pittsburgh, are accessible via high-speed rail, commuter rail, or Megabus. This is all in addition to providing a plethora of small city entertainment right here in town. My weekends often revolve around the First World problem of, "Where the hell should we go?"

 
Old 05-23-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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In my opinion,

Overrated: Washington, D.C. I don't know why, but I just don't care for the city/metro. Lacks a certain je nais se quois when compared to the other Northeast cities. Nothing really wrong with it on paper, and I don't hate it--just don't care for it. Putting it in the overrated column solely based on its high CoL and lack of "something".
It lacks the grittiness and industrial history of the Northeastern cities, which is a major reason why it's not truly Northeastern in my book but mid-Atlantic.
 
Old 05-23-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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It lacks the grittiness and industrial history of the Northeastern cities, which is a major reason why it's not truly Northeastern in my book but mid-Atlantic.
That's a fair point that I can respect (without turning this into another thread frequented by a certain poster from St. Louis lol). D.C. really does feel quite different from Baltimore, Philly and NYC, in my personal experience (shipping up to Boston for the first time next month), and that is a big reason why (though, it can be quite "gritty" in parts, if I'm understanding your use).

I guess the city just feels bland to me. Like one big tourist attraction, with a smattering of pretty bad 'hoods sprinkled throughout, all surrounded by typical big-box stores, terrible traffic and suburbia (albeit pretty). Doesn't feel like a real city, if that makes sense, and I'm not sure I would want to live there, despite the great job market there and all of its growth. Great to marvel at, checks most of the important boxes, but I dunno. Granted, most of these criticisms can be lobbed at the other cities on the corridor, but again, something's missing in D.C. (to me).
 
Old 05-23-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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That's a fair point that I can respect (without turning this into another thread frequented by a certain poster from St. Louis lol). D.C. really does feel quite different from Baltimore, Philly and NYC, in my personal experience (shipping up to Boston for the first time next month), and that is a big reason why (though, it can be quite "gritty" in parts, if I'm understanding your use).

I guess the city just feels bland to me. Like one big tourist attraction, with a smattering of pretty bad 'hoods sprinkled throughout, all surrounded by typical big-box stores, terrible traffic and suburbia (albeit pretty). Doesn't feel like a real city, if that makes sense, and I'm not sure I would want to live there, despite the great job market there and all of its growth. Great to marvel at, checks most of the important boxes, but I dunno. Granted, most of these criticisms can be lobbed at the other cities on the corridor, but again, something's missing in D.C. (to me).
I don't really get the "one big tourist attraction" thing, outside of downtown anyway. And it feels very much like a real city to me. To each his own though.
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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There aren't that many overrated northern cities. There are plenty of overrated cities though...
 
Old 05-24-2016, 03:31 PM
 
Location: District of Corruption
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It lacks the grittiness and industrial history of the Northeastern cities, which is a major reason why it's not truly Northeastern in my book but mid-Atlantic.

Why do you say that DC doesn't have grittiness? Define grittiness I'm confused?

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Old 05-24-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: District of Corruption
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[quote=qworldorder;44161521]That's a fair point that I can respect (without turning this into another thread frequented by a certain poster from St. Louis lol). D.C. really does feel quite different from Baltimore, Philly and NYC, in my personal experience (shipping up to Boston for the first time next month), and that is a big reason why (though, it can be quite "gritty" in parts, if I'm understanding your use).

I guess the city just feels bland to me. Like one big tourist attraction, with a smattering of pretty bad 'hoods sprinkled throughout, all surrounded by typical big-box stores, terrible traffic and suburbia (albeit pretty). Doesn't feel like a real city, if that makes sense,



No, it doesn't really make sense to me at all. DC is a city of very different styles of neighborhoods. I think the issue is, that like most people who visit you've never truly seen the city outside of the tourist traps.


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Old 05-24-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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Why do you say that DC doesn't have grittiness? Define grittiness I'm confused?
It lacks a history of heavy industry which would give it a gritty quality like Bmore, Philly, Newark, NYC, etc. DC feels quite polished in comparison.
 
Old 05-24-2016, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Why is Boston rated highly? New Haven, Providence, Hartford, why aren't they rated highly?
Boston is a very powerful city for its size, it is arguably the top city in the world for medicine, education and biotech along with being a top five city on the planet in high tech and a top ten financial center. People just expect it to be a lot bigger than it is.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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[quote=DuffMann;44182072]The top city in the world for education is London. Boston is second. NYC is fifth. Chicago is 11th. Washington is 12th. Philadelphia is 17th.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com...009048.article.

Second or first in the world is pretty amazing...and this is just one article.

Boston is not a top ten financial centre.

London Beats New York as the World

Boston is #12 in this particular article...also mentioned, "New York and London remain two of most stable centers, along with Hong Kong, Singapore, Seoul, Chicago, Toronto, Boston, and San Francisco".


Like you said...Top city for medicine cases can be made for Boston, NYC, Chicago...

Boston has many strengths and it is a safe walk-able city, too. That's why it is well regardedand expensive, not because it "advertises" itself.

The OP didn't make this thread to be about Philly or Boston. At this point in history, Boston may have higher world stature than Philly, but that hardly makes it "overrated". Boston is just a successful city right now, that's a good thing IMHO.
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