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I was being a bit cheeky when I said that New Mexico isn't western. Though in all honesty, I consider New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and Montana mountain states. Yes, they're more western than the midwest, but they are too far east to be part of the west. IMO, Spokane, Boise, Vegas and Phoenix mark the beginning of the western cities. Again, just my opinion and obviously not a popular one, haha!
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I was being a bit cheeky when I said that New Mexico isn't western. Though in all honesty, I consider New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and Montana mountain states. Yes, they're more western than the midwest, but they are too far east to be part of the west. IMO, Spokane, Boise, Vegas and Phoenix mark the beginning of the western cities. Again, just my opinion and obviously not a popular one, haha!
With that logic Virginia is far too north to be Southern, in spite of it historically hosting the capital of the Confederacy.
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I was being a bit cheeky when I said that New Mexico isn't western. Though in all honesty, I consider New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and Montana mountain states. Yes, they're more western than the midwest, but they are too far east to be part of the west. IMO, Spokane, Boise, Vegas and Phoenix mark the beginning of the western cities. Again, just my opinion and obviously not a popular one, haha!
If you want to divide the West into two halves, you should probably name them after the two time zones: Mountain and Pacific.
Pacific:
- Washington
- Oregon
- Idaho
- California
- (Arizona)?
Both of these groups make up the entire "West". But the cities you listed - Vegas, Boise, Phoenix, and Spokane - mark the beginning of the "Pacific" region.
With that logic Virginia is far too north to be Southern, in spite of it historically hosting the capital of the Confederacy.
I'm not saying you have to agree, it's just the perspective of one west coast resident. You're entitled to consider the entire country west for all I care.
Pacific:
- Washington
- Oregon
- Idaho
- California
- (Arizona)?
Both of these groups make up the entire "West". But the cities you listed - Vegas, Boise, Phoenix, and Spokane - mark the beginning of the "Pacific" region.
Good post, but keep in mind only small parts of Idaho are in the Pacific Time Zone. Namely, the northern panhandle to keep in time with Spokane. The rest of Idaho is Mountain.
Also, trivia...there are parts of far eastern Oregon (Ontario), that are in the mountain zone.
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Overrated:
Los Angeles, San Diego--both are great places, but they live in a hype bubble that obscures reality. As places to visit, they are probably up to the hype, but spend more than a few days and most people are wondering WTF?!
Underrated:
Sacramento, Oakland--good places to live and surprisingly good places to visit. Lots of "under-the-radar" charm and things that give the places urban identity (in a very good way). Both enjoy SF's proximity to all the best of Northern California at relative bargains.
Appropriately rated:
San Francisco, Seattle, Portland--all are touted as Nirvana for those who gravitate to their quirky, individualist existences. They are right. Few cities live up to the kind of hype piled on these places. All three of these cities are among those that do.
Pacific:
- Washington
- Oregon
- Idaho
- California
- (Arizona)?
Both of these groups make up the entire "West". But the cities you listed - Vegas, Boise, Phoenix, and Spokane - mark the beginning of the "Pacific" region.
Far West Texas should be in the "Mountain" list El Paso is in the Mountain Time Zone (the only city in Texas rest is in Central Time) and is in the high desert like New Mexico.
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