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The census only gives data in terms of the 4 big regions (Northeast, Midwest, South, West), but here's some data for at least the top 5 states by US population (CA, TX, FL, NY, IL) to see where transplanted populations come from:
Interesting numbers for all of the CSAs. My take is that Los Angeles and San Francisco both have a pretty balanced draw from all across the country in terms of domestic transplants (in fact, the "West" is the lowest transplant region for both areas, but obviously that has much more to do with Californians being omitted from the numbers).
The rest of the CSAs are fairly lopsided toward transplants from the region in which it resides.
How do you count transplants from another state in say, the New York CSA which spans several states? Lots of New Jerseyans born in NYC would be counted as transplants within the same CSA and so would any New Yorkers who formerly lived in Jersey.
The southern transplants for the northern cities might be older black residents. Might be interesting to compare which states have more foreign born vs born in another state.
Interesting numbers for all of the CSAs. My take is that Los Angeles and San Francisco both have a pretty balanced draw from all across the country in terms of domestic transplants (in fact, the "West" is the lowest transplant region for both areas, but obviously that has much more to do with Californians being omitted from the numbers).
The rest of the CSAs are fairly lopsided toward transplants from the region in which it resides.
Yeah so far I have noticed that only in PHX, DEN, and the FL metros where the biggest contributor of transplants are places outside of it's region. I think the CA metros (including Sacramento) are balanced for te reason you point out: most of the Western born are most likely in California. Other Western states are either transplant and foreign born dominated (NV, AZ, and WA) for now or they are states that generally have a lot of people.
I'm surprised that FL is by far the most transplant dominated state in raw numbers and close to by percentage (NV beats it out), and that TX doesn't have more transplants than it does given how many people are moving to Texas nowadays. I was half expecting the largest region represented to be the West based on how many Californians are moving to TX (or at least where most f the attention goes).
Surprising statistic of the day: FL has the same population today as California did in 1970. Florida has less people born in state today (only 35.4% was born in FL) than CA did in 1970 at the same population (43.2% of CA in 1970 was born in state)
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How do you count transplants from another state in say, the New York CSA which spans several states? Lots of New Jerseyans born in NYC would be counted as transplants within the same CSA and so would any New Yorkers who formerly lived in Jersey.
You count them the same I guess. The census questionnaire literally asks "What state were you born in?" and compares that to their state of residence. It could be a move from NY-CA or NY-NJ, it doesn't matter. They're both counted as the same. They're only technically transplants, but transplants all the same. That's why I posted up the regional numbers so a better idea is given.
Likewise for transplants from DFW-HOU or LA-SF, they aren't counted as "born in another state" even though they definitely are transplants to a new area.
It's imperfect but it gives a good idea. Better than sifting through a huge deluge of county data.
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The southern transplants for the northern cities might be older black residents
Probably. The ACS gives temporal data as well, so I can go sift through it more when I have a bit more time.
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Might be interesting to compare which states have more foreign born vs born in another state.
States with more foreign born than those born in another state
California: 10,300,382 vs 6,592,525
New York: 4,424,370 vs 2,248,358
Those are the only two states, though there are four others where the foreign born nearly matches the the "born in another state crowd"
Hawaii: 251,866 vs 342,239
Illinois: 1,791,330 vs. 2,325,553
Massachusetts: 995,692 vs. 1,290,017
New Jersey: 1,883,299 vs. 2,113,321
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On another note, the DC-Baltimore CSA has the most domestic transplants of any area -- even the NYC CSA, which is more than twice as large. This doesn't seem completely shocking though, since sometimes it seems like natives are a novelty around here.
You count them the same I guess. The census questionnaire literally asks "What state were you born in?" and compares that to their state of residence. It could be a move from NY-CA or NY-NJ, it doesn't matter. They're both counted as the same. They're only technically transplants, but transplants all the same. That's why I posted up the regional numbers so a better idea is given.
Likewise for transplants from DFW-HOU or LA-SF, they aren't counted as "born in another state" even though they definitely are transplants to a new area.
It's imperfect but it gives a good idea. Better than sifting through a huge deluge of county data.
Makes sense. Interesting stuff, even if imperfect. Thanks for sharing the info.
Probably. The ACS gives temporal data as well, so I can go sift through it more when I have a bit more time.
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States with more foreign born than those born in another state
California: 10,300,382 vs 6,592,525
New York: 4,424,370 vs 2,248,358
Those are the only two states, though there are four others where the foreign born nearly matches the the "born in another state crowd"
I'm surprised only two states had more foreign born than domestic transplants. I'm guess my perception of the norm is skewed from living / spending time in downstate NY.
1) didn't realize that Midwesterners liked CA so much.
I didn't realize that so many Southerners moved to California. That was sort of a shocker to me. California seems to have the most balance of transplants by region, though I think Colorado comes close.
Texas has a good balance as well, but Northeastern people don't move there as much. Florida barely attracts people from out West.
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2) found it kind of shocking how SO MANY of Boston's transplants are from other northern states. I just don't know what to make of that....
Most of the Northeast metro areas seem to have that same pattern: lots of people from other northeastern states, not so much from the rest of the country. If I had to take a guess, all 3 metro areas have lots of people from neighboring states who move within the metro but move between states, counting them as transplants.
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