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Old 03-03-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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Which one of these urban districts do you believe has the most potential to develop into true destination spots for their respective cities?
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Old 03-03-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Midtown ATL is already there...
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Would be interesting if anybody has experience of all three. I've only been to two of them and that's Uptown Houston and Uptown Dallas. Uptown Dallas and Uptown Houston are not the same type of built environment. The function is different as well. I would say Uptown Dallas is more urban than Uptown Houston but Uptown Houston is larger. Uptown Dallas is closer to Downtown Dallas than Uptown Houston is to Downtown Houston. IMO, I think this could be between Uptown Dallas and Midtown Atlanta. Houston has a couple more potential different areas that could be the true destination spot in the future. Just the way the city is developed.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I think all 3 have major potential as they are both in rapidly growing cities. I currently live in Uptown Houston and have watched it grow tremendously over the past few years. Uptown won't truly reach it's potential until they get rid of the strip centers and surface lots. The Westheimer/Post Oak intersection needs to be more pedestrian friendly. Maybe an underground crosswalk.
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Old 03-03-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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Midtown Atlanta is the most urban. Sorry, but it's true...It essentially functions as an extension of downtown Atlanta.

The problem with Uptown Houston is that it's auto-centric. It reminds me of Buckhead here and is anchored by a mall. You have a lot of 'tower in the park' highrises and skyscraper, but almost no street level interaction.

Uptown Dallas is somewhat similar to Midtown Atlanta, but I feel it's less urban, but way more upscale.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Uptown Houston would be better compared to Buckhead in Atlanta. Dallas doesn't have an area that is similar to Uptown Houston or Buckhead as it's developed differently.

Midtown Atlanta and Uptown Dallas are a better comparison:

Midtown Atlanta has pockets of very urban areas with nice wide sidewalks and streetscapes, but it is not consistent at this point (I think the size of the area hurts this). Other areas of Midtown feel very disconnected and create an island effect for the parts that are actually urban. The area of Atlanta designated as "Midtown" is also much larger and strung out than Uptown Dallas. You will see more surface parking breaking up development in Midtown. There's also a much larger stock of single family homes and suburban style developments mixed in with the urban developments in Midtown. For instance, there are fast food restaurants in Midtown Atlanta with drive thrus.

Uptown Dallas is smaller, more compact and closer to a full build out than Midtown Atlanta and has more of an upscale feel to it (I'm not sure I'd say Midtown Atlanta is more urban than Uptown Dallas as a whole). Uptown Dallas has a more consistent built environment in this district creating a certain identity which works well for bar/restaurant hopping (lots of patio bars and restaurants lining the streets) or shopping. Uptown Dallas has the advantage of having the free historic trolleys as a fun way to get around the neighborhood. Another advantage of Uptown is that it flows directly into downtown and other districts without awkward barriers creating a consistent core throughout central Dallas. Many of the adjacent neighborhoods such as Knox-Henderson, Oak Lawn, Victory Park and Highland Park are connected via the Katy Trail and parks system. Unless you're familiar with the area, you sometimes aren't sure when you've left one neighborhood and entered another. Atlanta is currently building out the Belt Line which is a similar concept to the Katy Trail. Areas of Uptown such as State-Thomas/Lower McKinney and West Village seem to be the type of direction that Midtown Atlanta is trying to grow into.

Overall, I think all three districts are growing and becoming better environments. Each one has it's own spin on development which makes it unique from the others. I don't think any one is better than the other as they serve their own purposes in their cities.

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Old 03-03-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Has to be Dallas or Atlanta. Uptown Houston is suburban unfortunately.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:31 PM
 
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midtown ATL> Uptown Dallas > Uptown Houston
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:02 AM
 
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Uptown Houston would be better compared to Buckhead in Atlanta. Dallas doesn't have an area that is similar to Uptown Houston or Buckhead as it's developed differently.

Midtown Atlanta and Uptown Dallas are a better comparison:

Midtown Atlanta has pockets of very urban areas with nice wide sidewalks and streetscapes, but it is not consistent at this point (I think the size of the area hurts this). Other areas of Midtown feel very disconnected and create an island effect for the parts that are actually urban. The area of Atlanta designated as "Midtown" is also much larger and strung out than Uptown Dallas. You will see more surface parking breaking up development in Midtown. There's also a much larger stock of single family homes and suburban style developments mixed in with the urban developments in Midtown. For instance, there are fast food restaurants in Midtown Atlanta with drive thrus.

Uptown Dallas is smaller, more compact and closer to a full build out than Midtown Atlanta and has more of an upscale feel to it (I'm not sure I'd say Midtown Atlanta is more urban than Uptown Dallas as a whole). Uptown Dallas has a more consistent built environment in this district creating a certain identity which works well for bar/restaurant hopping (lots of patio bars and restaurants lining the streets) or shopping. Uptown Dallas has the advantage of having the free historic trolleys as a fun way to get around the neighborhood. Another advantage of Uptown is that it flows directly into downtown and other districts without awkward barriers creating a consistent core throughout central Dallas. Many of the adjacent neighborhoods such as Knox-Henderson, Oak Lawn, Victory Park and Highland Park are connected via the Katy Trail and parks system. Unless you're familiar with the area, you sometimes aren't sure when you've left one neighborhood and entered another. Atlanta is currently building out the Belt Line which is a similar concept to the Katy Trail. Areas of Uptown such as State-Thomas/Lower McKinney and West Village seem to be the type of direction that Midtown Atlanta is trying to grow into.

Overall, I think all three districts are growing and becoming better environments. Each one has it's own spin on development which makes it unique from the others. I don't think any one is better than the other as they serve their own purposes in their cities.
You're saying Uptown Dallas is more built up than Midtown Atlanta? What? And Midtown Atlanta is trying to go into the direction of West Village? Uh no. You're funny. West Village is pretty urban, but that's not what Midtown Atlanta will be....at all.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:27 AM
 
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Uptown Houston would be better compared to Buckhead in Atlanta. Dallas doesn't have an area that is similar to Uptown Houston or Buckhead as it's developed differently.

Midtown Atlanta and Uptown Dallas are a better comparison:

Midtown Atlanta has pockets of very urban areas with nice wide sidewalks and streetscapes, but it is not consistent at this point (I think the size of the area hurts this). Other areas of Midtown feel very disconnected and create an island effect for the parts that are actually urban. The area of Atlanta designated as "Midtown" is also much larger and strung out than Uptown Dallas. You will see more surface parking breaking up development in Midtown. There's also a much larger stock of single family homes and suburban style developments mixed in with the urban developments in Midtown. For instance, there are fast food restaurants in Midtown Atlanta with drive thrus.

Uptown Dallas is smaller, more compact and closer to a full build out than Midtown Atlanta and has more of an upscale feel to it (I'm not sure I'd say Midtown Atlanta is more urban than Uptown Dallas as a whole). Uptown Dallas has a more consistent built environment in this district creating a certain identity which works well for bar/restaurant hopping (lots of patio bars and restaurants lining the streets) or shopping. Uptown Dallas has the advantage of having the free historic trolleys as a fun way to get around the neighborhood. Another advantage of Uptown is that it flows directly into downtown and other districts without awkward barriers creating a consistent core throughout central Dallas. Many of the adjacent neighborhoods such as Knox-Henderson, Oak Lawn, Victory Park and Highland Park are connected via the Katy Trail and parks system. Unless you're familiar with the area, you sometimes aren't sure when you've left one neighborhood and entered another. Atlanta is currently building out the Belt Line which is a similar concept to the Katy Trail. Areas of Uptown such as State-Thomas/Lower McKinney and West Village seem to be the type of direction that Midtown Atlanta is trying to grow into.

Overall, I think all three districts are growing and becoming better environments. Each one has it's own spin on development which makes it unique from the others. I don't think any one is better than the other as they serve their own purposes in their cities.
Uptown Dallas is not urban in comparison to Midtown Atlanta from a potential standpoint. It's really not close actually. Uptown Dallas is suburban in nature with grass setbacks and even front yard driveways for cars in some area's. There is a lack of street level retail also. They're really night and day. Is Uptown Dallas more built out? Yes, but build out into what? Uptown Dallas as a whole wouldn't pass for urban in any of the actual urban cities in America. Midtown Atlanta at build out will pass for urban even if it's just a very long linear strip that's only .5-.8 miles in width that passes for urban. The buildings being built in Midtown Atlanta fit the bill. It's not about height by the way, it's about street level design.
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