Mature Gay Couple to NY or LA? (best, cost, compared)

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by stylistvg

I live in west hollywood and honestly one thing to consider is LA is SOOOO not the city to grow old in. It is a city worshiping at the altar of youth and beauty. The majority of men i see about town in WeHo are young and super fit. Im personally moving back to the east coast as soon as i can (im 45), as Im feeling more and more out of place here. The quality of life in terms of what you get for your money is better in LA but I would take NYC in a heartbeat if I could afford to live there

the OP is already partnered, presumably for the long term, so he's probably not worried about the "scene" and appearing fit and trendy. He also doesn't have to live in West Hollywood, many older gay men buy homes in quieter, more suburban areas. Finally, even if all you say is true, how would NYC be any different? Youth and beauty are worshipped everywhere.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

the OP is already partnered, presumably for the long term, so he's probably not worried about the "scene" and appearing fit and trendy. He also doesn't have to live in West Hollywood, many older gay men buy homes in quieter, more suburban areas. Finally, even if all you say is true, how would NYC be any different? Youth and beauty are worshipped everywhere.

You are clearly an insensitive Moderator cut: language.

I wish this weren't necessary, but .

[yby1]

I gave up the altar of youth and beauty for lent. LA should be a great place for the next 40 days.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by nslander

You are clearly an insensitive Moderator cut: language.

I wish this weren't necessary, but .

Tell me what's insensitive and/or untrue about my post. I'm just laying out the facts. LA is not any more superficial than NY, or actually most of the US, and since the OP seems to be long term partnered he doesn't need to be worrying about all that stuff anyway. But even if he was, NY is not better than LA in that regard.

[lrmsd]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

the OP is already partnered, presumably for the long term, so he's probably not worried about the "scene" and appearing fit and trendy. He also doesn't have to live in West Hollywood, many older gay men buy homes in quieter, more suburban areas. Finally, even if all you say is true, how would NYC be any different? Youth and beauty are worshipped everywhere.

Hopefully you are just trying to stir the pot-b/c if you've lived anywhere outside of so cal, you know full well that LA and to a slightly lesser extent the rest of so cal is absolutely more fixated on appearance and youth than many if not most other parts of the US. And it starts early here, too, vs. other areas of the country.
[No, not all areas of the country-but many, just to qualify.] The entertainment industry in LA makes it more apparent/extreme than other parts of so cal, too. Honestly, how could you seriously state that LA is not, as a general culture, like this? Yes, there are plenty of people in LA who are not concerned about youth, superficial appearance, etc., but the dominant culture does and is. That being said, so cal is famous for beautiful people, as well. So this 'trait' is not necessarily negative, though certainly has many unhealthy practices associated with it socially and personally. Anyway, I think Brasil may be the plastic surgery capital now, or is it Colombia? LA ranks high, though. Oh, checked-the US is still #1 in that department:
http://www.isaps.org/Media/Default/g...dures-2011.pdf
And I believe LA still ranks the highest among US cities, for number of surgeons and number of procedures. [though obviously, it could be lower per capita-I don't know. And not all surgeries are cosmetic. And doesn't count injections.] Seriously, superficial image is king in LA; a large part of its economy relies on this and attracts people from around the world who likewise prioritize this. Similar to how people go to Boston for academics. ....Miami is right up there with LA, as well.

[eastmemphisguy]

Depends on your interests. Though LA has plenty to do as well, New York clearly has the edge on the big city stuff. LA has better weather and access to nature and scenery. Neither one is innately better. I'd pick LA, but you have to do what's right for you.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by lrmsd

Hopefully you are just trying to stir the pot-b/c if you've lived anywhere outside of so cal, you know full well that LA and to a slightly lesser extent the rest of so cal is absolutely more fixated on appearance and youth than many if not most other parts of the US. And it starts early here, too, vs. other areas of the country.
[No, not all areas of the country-but many, just to qualify.] The entertainment industry in LA makes it more apparent/extreme than other parts of so cal, too. Honestly, how could you seriously state that LA is not, as a general culture, like this? Yes, there are plenty of people in LA who are not concerned about youth, superficial appearance, etc., but the dominant culture does and is. That being said, so cal is famous for beautiful people, as well. So this 'trait' is not necessarily negative, though certainly has many unhealthy practices associated with it socially and personally. Anyway, I think Brasil may be the plastic surgery capital now, or is it Colombia? LA ranks high, though. Oh, checked-the US is still #1 in that department:
http://www.isaps.org/Media/Default/g...dures-2011.pdf
And I believe LA still ranks the highest among US cities, for number of surgeons and number of procedures. [though obviously, it could be lower per capita-I don't know. And not all surgeries are cosmetic. And doesn't count injections.] Seriously, superficial image is king in LA; a large part of its economy relies on this and attracts people from around the world who likewise prioritize this. Similar to how people go to Boston for academics. ....Miami is right up there with LA, as well.

Fine, but I maintain that the rest of the nation, to varying degrees, is also obsessed with youth and beauty. It's an American thing.

But going back to the OP, if he's long term partnered and out of the scene, this shouldn't really be a concern.

[Gurbie]

Originally Posted by Mack Knife

Are gay couples different than other couples? It would seem so since you make being gay a distinction.

Why not just "a mature couple" and leave the gay part out? The more you make being gay a difference the more others do as well and rightfully so since you yourself make it that way.

The quality of life in either city can be good or bad depending on what you make of it and you expectations. Being large cities, each offers a variety of attractions for almost any kind of lifestyles or cultures.

Wait a minute- if a person happens to mentions he's gay, he invites others to... do WHAT, exactly???

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by stylistvg

Ok, wow...to the two previous posters. Im a damn WOMAN, and I GO to the gym. I also happen to live in WeHo and work in the movie business, ALL of LA worships at the altar of youth and beauty not just WeHo for gods sakes. I have alot of older gay male friends who are leaving LA. I was just sharing MY experiences and those of my gay older friends. Sheesh...way to be A@#holes you two.

Do you communicate exclusively via hyperbole? I didn't say anything disparaging about you.
And what does this even mean? "All" of Los Angeles "worships at the altar of youth and beauty?" Such nonsense. Everyone on the freaking planet values youth and beauty. How is LA any different from other places? Because the entertainment industry is prevalent? If LA were a coal town there would be a lot of miners here. But it's an entertainment city so we have a lot entertainers here. I'm not in entertainment and literally no one has said anything to me about youth or beauty. Most of the people I meet are just like the people anywhere else. They're normal, mostly kind, and mostly don't give a crap about what other are doing or what they look like if it doesn't effect them. This is just one of those things that people say just to say something. YOUR experience is one that is clearly seen through a very tainted lens.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Tell me what's insensitive and/or untrue about my post. I'm just laying out the facts. LA is not any more superficial than NY, or actually most of the US, and since the OP seems to be long term partnered he doesn't need to be worrying about all that stuff anyway. But even if he was, NY is not better than LA in that regard.

Nothing at all. That was my facetious response in the spirit of a previous post, hence the