Most urban/walkable downtown: Savannah vs DC vs Baltimore vs Philadelphia (best, Atlanta)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Philly, Baltimore, DC, Savannah. Philly beats all these cities by far. Phillys CBD should be compared to New York or Chicago. Its downtown is 4 times the size of the downtowns in all these cities. Downtown Philly could fit Downtown Bmore, DC, and Savannah in it and still have space.
Wrong. Downtown DC is bigger than Center City in regards to land space, let alone office space. CC Philly wouldn't have enough space to begin with to incorporate DTDC. Downtown Bmore and Savannah on the other hand are a different story.
Wrong. Downtown DC is bigger than Center City in regards to land space, let alone office space. CC Philly wouldn't have enough space to begin with to incorporate DTDC. Downtown Bmore and Savannah on the other hand are a different story.
Wrong. Philly's CBD is 2.07 miles (Central City), DC's is only 50 acres. Not to mention Philly is a much bigger city compared to DC.
Wrong. Philly's CBD is 2.07 miles (Central City), DC's is only 50 acres. Not to mention Philly is a much bigger city compared to DC.
The cores of Washington D.C. and Philadelphia are very different. D.C. has a much higher intensity in its urban core. Philadelphia has a much higher intensity in it's downtown. The question is what size area do people prefer? D.C.'s core is pulling away from Philadelphia in urbanity at a pretty fast rate. As construction continues and highrises continue to rise across the below 16.07 sq. mile area, the comparison really won't be close on urban core's with D.C. being head an shoulders above Philadelphia in the future.
This is also true for downtown's as Center City continues to build skyscrapers, D.C.'s downtown will not be close because it can't compete with that due to height limits and street width because of height limits. It boils down to what you prefer. Do you want to live in a smaller 2 sq. mile urban downtown of skyscrapers or a 16 sq. mile urban core that is majority 6-14 story highrises?
I often define them like this based on urbanity or walkability:
Most Urban Downtown: Philadelphia
Most Urban Core: Washington D.C.
Urban Core 16.07 sq. mile area for D.C. and Philly: (Apples to Apples)
The cores of Washington D.C. and Philadelphia are very different. D.C. has a much higher intensity in its urban core. Philadelphia has a much higher intensity in it's downtown. The question is what size area do people prefer? D.C.'s core is pulling away from Philadelphia in urbanity at a pretty fast rate. As construction continues and highrises continue to rise across the below 16.07 sq. mile area, the comparison really won't be close on urban core's with D.C. being head an shoulders above Philadelphia in the future.
This is also true for downtown's as Center City continues to build skyscrapers, D.C.'s downtown will not be close because it can't compete with that due to height limits and street width because of height limits. It boils down to what you prefer. Do you want to live in a smaller 2 sq. mile urban downtown of skyscrapers or a 16 sq. mile urban core that is majority 6-14 story highrises?
I often define them like this based on urbanity or walkability:
Most Urban Downtown: Philadelphia
Most Urban Core: Washington D.C.
Urban Core 16.07 sq. mile area for D.C. and Philly: (Apples to Apples)
I actually love living a very urban neighborhood that has a great feel of mostly 3 story rowhouses and a ton of character within a 1 to 45 minute walk of almost everything I want including a 10 minute walk to the very urban DT yet have a tree-lined diverse neighborhood street (where people plant flowers together along their fronts)
there are pros and cons to both but for me I would choose my neighborhood or a row in Dupont over these new apartment buildings any day - but that is me.
FWIW I live in your 16 sq mile are for Philly and hear buses, and children laughing, and birds, and church bells and my neighbors saying hello every day. I actually dont want to live DT but love being a stones throw in an actual neighborhood. I am loving Bella Vista more and more with each day to be honest.
I do think Philly is more walkable base on time in each and living in each, just my two cents
I actually love living a very urban neighborhood that has a great feel of mostly 3 story rowhouses and a ton of character within a 1 to 45 minute walk of almost everything I want including a 10 minute walk to the very urban DT yet have a tree-lined diverse neighborhood street (where people plant flowers together along their fronts)
there are pros and cons to both but for me I would choose my neighborhood or a row in Dupont over these new apartment buildings any day - but that is me.
FWIW I live in your 16 sq mile are for Philly and hear buses, and children laughing, and birds, and church bells and my neighbors saying hello every day. I actually dont want to live DT but love being a stones throw in an actual neighborhood. I am loving Bella Vista more and more with each day to be honest.
I do think Philly is more walkable base on time in each and living in each, just my two cents
Bahahaha DC's core is now the entire half of the city of DC now according to MDAllstar.
Last time I tried to walk in DC, I couldn't get anywhere, because every couple of blocks, a sidewalk was closed for construction, and I had to cross over to the other side or go around the block.
Bahahaha DC's core is now the entire half of the city of DC now according to MDAllstar.
?????
D.C.'s urban core is defined by the development zone. There are over 20,000 housing units delivering in that footprint over the next three years. The highlighted area will be developed with high-rise's and will absorb all the growth in D.C. over the next 20 years.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
