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umm did you not realize San Diego has a commuter rail system as well, one that opened before Seattle's?
I forgot, my first mistake I made on this thread. At the end of the day I would still say Seattle still has the edge in mass transit overall with it's better bus-rapid-transit and having a light rail subway system. I know buses run through the subway tunnels but so what! That's not the norm for American cities. You could nitpick all you want but in the grand scheme of things there is no denying that the best US transit cities all have great rail service.
I forgot, my first mistake I made on this thread. At the end of the day I would still say Seattle still has the edge in mass transit overall with it's better bus-rapid-transit and having a light rail subway system. I know buses run through the subway tunnels but so what! That's not the norm for American cities. You could nitpick all you want but in the grand scheme of things there is no denying that the best US transit cities all have great rail service.
I agree Seattle has a better PT system, or at least one that is more widely used by the population, but it isn't because of a few BRT lines that opened after it's light rail started service or because of some one mile long subway tunnel downtown that's shared with buses. So I guess you can agree having a much larger rail network doesn't automatically mean having better transit then correct? That perhaps there are quite a few other factors involved than simply having rail lines.
I agree Seattle has a better PT system, or at least one that is more widely used by the population, but it isn't because of a few BRT lines that opened after it's light rail started service or because of some one mile long subway tunnel downtown that's shared with buses. So I guess you can agree having a much larger rail network doesn't automatically mean having better transit then correct? That perhaps there are quite a few other factors involved than simply having rail lines.
I never said having a larger rail network automatically means having a better transit system. If you go back and read my previous posts, I clearly said buses were a contributing factor to overall transportation but just not on the level as rail service.
Unless your city has bus rapid transit that rivals Brazilian cities like Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro then your not really going to see a huge difference between major cities in the US when it comes to bus service. Los Angeles may be an exception since it has arguably the best bus-rapid transit system in the country. You keep on making excuses for Houston. We all know Houston has a lot great things going for it but good transportation isn't one of them. It's the largest city/metro area with the worst mass transit.
what y'all must realize is that Houston's mass transit is it's highway/freeway system. Forget that commuter rails connecting to light rails systems would be very efficient. Freeway connectors, connected to beltways connected to causeways, connected to highways, overpasses and feeders is the ultimate in mass transit.
I would say Raleigh, NC when I was living in Fayetteville, that's all they would tell me about and it's a moderate size city has no rail, very few buses from what I've recently read.
Some buses do connect to and from the other cities like Durham and Chapel Hill but it's very miniscual compared to at least the transportation system in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Miami.
Here in San Antonio, TX where I live, well we have at least 92 bus routes here which is good and also we have finally since 2012 the VIA PRIMO which is our first BRT (bus rapid transit) system.
Being in San Francisco before and riding the BART and MUNI gotta say that the PRIMO is not so bad at all,, it does replicate a Light Rail Train but with wheels LOL.
it's very cool I've taken a ride on it and it connects downtown to UTSA campus NW side every 10 minutes.
I would say Raleigh, NC when I was living in Fayetteville, that's all they would tell me about and it's a moderate size city has no rail, very few buses from what I've recently read.
Some buses do connect to and from the other cities like Durham and Chapel Hill but it's very miniscual compared to at least the transportation system in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Miami.
Here in San Antonio, TX where I live, well we have at least 92 bus routes here which is good and also we have finally since 2012 the VIA PRIMO which is our first BRT (bus rapid transit) system.
Being in San Francisco before and riding the BART and MUNI gotta say that the PRIMO is not so bad at all,, it does replicate a Light Rail Train but with wheels LOL.
it's very cool I've taken a ride on it and it connects downtown to UTSA campus NW side every 10 minutes.
Some of you are still missing the point. This is about metro areas, not just the cities themselves. If we were talking cities the yes, Atlanta would have a pretty good system, but we are talking overall metro areas. Places like Nashville and Raleigh may not have Rapid transit, but these metro areas have an overall higher percentage of residents near some form of transit than metro Atlanta. Only about a third of the residents of metro Atlanta are near some form of transit (making about 4 million of about 6 million residents with no alternative but to drive). That is the lowest percentage of any metro over 1 million residents.
Los Angeles, no contest. Pubic transport is available, but the area is too spread out and congested for it to be effective.
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I hate sittin' in traffic!!... 
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