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View Poll Results: Biggest by 2040
Boston 5 17.86%
San Francisco 12 42.86%
Phoenix 1 3.57%
Inland Empire 3 10.71%
Detroit 2 7.14%
Seattle 5 17.86%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-09-2014, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Which one do you think will pull out on top by 2040?

2010
#10 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,552,402
#11 San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,335,391
#12 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,296,250
#13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,224,851
#14 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,192,887
#15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 3,439,809

2013
#10 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,684,299
#11 San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,516,276
#12 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,398,762
#13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,380,878
#14 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,294,983
#15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 3,610,105

Growth
#1 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area: +205,875
#2 San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +180,885
#3 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +170,296
#4 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +156,027
#5 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metropolitan Statistical Area: +131,897
#6 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area: -1,267

Change
#1 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +4.95%
#2 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area: +4.91%
#3 San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +4.17%
#4 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: +3.69%
#5 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metropolitan Statistical Area: +2.90%
#6 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area: −0.03%

Projection for 2020
#10 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,958,239
#11 San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,891,960
#12 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,826,349
#13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,704,934
#14 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area: 4,292,449
#15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area: 3,963,896
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Its unbelievable how an LA suburb is as big as some of the US' biggest MSA's IMO
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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We may add Stockton by 2023. Bizarre but true. Their commuter % to the SF MSA is rising fast.

Tesla is building a factory out there and I hear other tech companies from the Inner Bay may follow suit so they are beginning to the feel residual affects from the Bay Area's strong economy.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Its unbelievable how an LA suburb is as big as some of the US' biggest MSA's IMO
How so? LA's massive.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: a bar
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How so? LA's massive.
At over 27,000 square miles, the Inland Empire is massive. Over 5 times the land size Boston's MSA infact.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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At over 27,000 square miles, the Inland Empire is massive. Over 5 times the land size Boston's MSA infact.
Most of the 27k square miles is inhabitable desert, the IE's development is constricted in a smaller area
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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We may add Stockton by 2023. Bizarre but true. Their commuter % to the SF MSA is rising fast.

Tesla is building a factory out there and I hear other tech companies from the Inner Bay may follow suit so they are beginning to the feel residual affects from the Bay Area's strong economy.
Wow that would put our MSA over 5.3M today with the prospects of 5.8M in 2020 and likely over 6M by 2023.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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At over 27,000 square miles, the Inland Empire is massive. Over 5 times the land size Boston's MSA infact.
Jeez does this have to be brought up every time? You have to know at this point (after seeing posters being corrected over and over and over and over and over again) that the 27k square miles is largely empty desert. It is a function of measuring by including entire counties which stretch to the Arizona and Nevada border. I'd say the developed IE takes up maybe 1/10 of those 27k square miles.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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I'd say the developed IE takes up maybe 1/10 of those 27k square miles.
That's likely being generous to Cliff IMO. Likely half of that at 1400 square miles max. 1/20th of that 27k. No surprise if its even smaller than 1400 square miles, likely is.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: a bar
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Jeez does this have to be brought up every time? You have to know at this point (after seeing posters being corrected over and over and over and over and over again) that the 27k square miles is largely empty desert. It is a function of measuring by including entire counties which stretch to the Arizona and Nevada border. I'd say the developed IE takes up maybe 1/10 of those 27k square miles.
I'm well aware those 27k sq miles would be empty desert. The exact % I'm unaware of.

If the size of the IE has been brought up before, I do apologize. I've never seen the IE MSA mentioned in a thread before. I just found the size comparisons interesting. I have no agenda.

Carry on.
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