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The difference is more that those who arrive at Beverly Hills mostly park, then walk around. While in Buckhead [guessing], visitors are more easily able to drive from spot to spot.
Yeah, there aren't that many places to walk around in Buckhead. The scale makes things difficult. Even though Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza are only about 800 feet apart (maybe even less), it just seems farther. It would never occur to me to walk between the two. You would have to walk across the "street" in the link below.
Now I'm sure I'll get blasted with the "That's completely walkable/I walk it all the time!" comments, but I don't consider that walkable in the least. I will drive that 800 feet to the parking garage at Phipps every single day of the week.
Yeah, there aren't that many places to walk around in Buckhead. The scale makes things difficult. Even though Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza are only about 800 feet apart (maybe even less), it just seems farther. It would never occur to me to walk between the two. You would have to walk across the "street" in the link below.
Now I'm sure I'll get blasted with the "That's completely walkable/I walk it all the time!" comments, but I don't consider that walkable in the least. I will drive that 800 feet to the parking garage at Phipps every single day of the week.
Looks like a good example of urban (as in densely built-up) but pedestrian hostile. Not that common of a combination, especially here in the Northeast.
Please show us any and all posts that people are acting like BH is super-dense and urban....
And are you really bragging about 7500 ppsm? I think it's not that people think BH is all that urban, just that Buckhead is so not urban. It looks like a clusterf*ck version of Century City.
Besides, aren't we only comparing the shopping districts? I mean, Beverly Hills still wins in that aspect too but the whole SFH thing is moot considering we are talking about the commercial areas and not residential.
Doheny - Santa Monica - Wilshire triangle has 9500 PPSM. The tract next to it (214901) is 25k ppsm. South of that (700802) is 15k ppsm. East of that (214902) is 13k ppsm. 700902 has a ppsm of 17k. 216402 has 29k (are there any tracts in Atlanta with a density of 29K?). I could keep going because there are a handful of other tracts in the 10-20 range and even more in the 9-10k range. In fact I don't think there is a tract in BH under 9k ppsm other than the part of the city north of Santa Monica Blvd (which is the part of the city much of BH's popular lore is developed from) Now do you see why people think the comparison is absurd?
I can't wait for some poster to tell me those numbers are a result of a bunch of Mexicans crammed into a SFH....
Are any of those places you mentioned considered BH?If not whats your point?
Yes they are acting like it when compared to Buckhead.
Yeah it's very tiny like two blocks. It's population is 3,400 people, about six total highrises and a few commercial buildings in a condensed area. It's next highest tract is right after Boston's at 97,000 people per square mile.
Which is my point though, census tracts are the smallest barometers to any sort of density argument. For all intents and purposes, Buckhead lags in having a high density tract of it's own, Atlanta in general lags in the density category straight across the board. While density isn't the end all and be all of urbanity, Buckhead lacks the very first thing needed to make a place urban, which is supporting human density.
BH is more urban,NEVER said it was not.But this is not some runaway comparison either.Beverly Hills is not that much more urban.
It would not take a whole lot for Buckhead to catich up.Thats my point and Im sticking to it.
Yeah, there aren't that many places to walk around in Buckhead. The scale makes things difficult. Even though Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza are only about 800 feet apart (maybe even less), it just seems farther. It would never occur to me to walk between the two. You would have to walk across the "street" in the link below.
Now I'm sure I'll get blasted with the "That's completely walkable/I walk it all the time!" comments, but I don't consider that walkable in the least. I will drive that 800 feet to the parking garage at Phipps every single day of the week.
I live in a highrise next to Phipps and find walking quite easy there. We walk to dinner quite often. I wish that more people that actually have more real world experience would weigh in on here.
The difference is more that those who arrive at Beverly Hills mostly park, then walk around. While in Buckhead [guessing], visitors are more easily able to drive from spot to spot.
Not true.MARTA makes Buckhead very accessible to visitors.There are 2 stops.
I hate saying this because I think its a bad way of gauging a city but all one has to do is a little Google streetview in both areas to realize they're not compatible.
The Google views are outdated.
There have been major pedestrian upgrades not shown in those images since they were taken.
A new pedestrian bridge and bicycle lanes have been and are being added.
I live in a highrise next to Phipps and find walking quite easy there. We walk to dinner quite often. I wish that more people that actually have more real world experience would weigh in on here.
I live downtown but when I go to Buckhead I prefer to take MARTA.Its fast and I don't have to worry about traffic or parking.
Buckhead is fairly easy to get around but with all the construction at the moment,its been harder.
Are any of those places you mentioned considered BH?If not whats your point?
Yes they are acting like it when compared to Buckhead.
Every single one of them are within Beverly Hills, and only in Beverly Hills (i.e none of them are half BH half LA).
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