Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I'm sorry genericusername because this has been one of the most awful threads where the OP is simply seeking advice. Some absolutely terrible internet characters have plagued your thread - marothisu & standard111 (and possibly some others) not included. And at times even they were baited in to meaningless 'debate' on irrelevant nonsense.
I was hoping some of the more respectable posters knowledgeable of both areas would show up to assist you but instead it was unfortunately hijacked early and often by despicable, hateful & ignorant personalities - jessemh431 for example. Personal opinion is one thing, but what was displayed here negatively goes beyond that. Good luck.
Sf, while beautiful, is probably the most over hyped city in the world. With the most obnoxious, aloof, provincial, entitled, narcissistic population I have ever seen.
People are ****ed up in the head there.
There is a reason most of the natives have left, and most transplants leave after a few years.
It is a tourism town that lives on hype. So you need a new generation of suckers, every few years.
Sf, while beautiful, is probably the most over hyped city in the world. With the most obnoxious, aloof, provincial, entitled, narcissistic population I have ever seen.
People are ****ed up in the head there.
There is a reason most of the natives have left, and most transplants leave after a few years.
It is a tourism town that lives on hype. So you need a new generation of suckers, every few years.
I have to agree. I liked visiting but could never live there
I've been offered two jobs: one in Chicago, one in San Francisco. I live ~45 min from SF but haven't spent too much time there so I'm interested in hearing people's thoughts. Mid 20s, single, gay male here if that matters. I'm a native of Southern California so also curious to hear from any Californian's who have made the adjustment. Thank you!
Getting back to the the OP's question, would you be making the same amount of money in both cities? What type of neighborhood are you looking for? Is having a car important, or would you prefer to go car free? Are you ok with cold weather? Etc, etc.
Sf, while beautiful, is probably the most over hyped city in the world. With the most obnoxious, aloof, provincial, entitled, narcissistic population I have ever seen.
People are ****ed up in the head there.
There is a reason most of the natives have left, and most transplants leave after a few years.
It is a tourism town that lives on hype. So you need a new generation of suckers, every few years.
Yes. I wish I could give you unlimited positive feedback for that!
What I was saying before is that if you're some elitist know-it-all with a hugely inflated ego that somehow covers your low self esteem, SF is the place for you. If you're down to earth and enjoy just living your life, Chicago is the place for you. People are real and genuine. SF is so transient it's hard to make real friends, especially if you're not elitist and don't perpetuate the perfectness of SF. For example, University of San Francisco's slogan is "University of the Best City Ever." That sounds quite arrogant to me, especially coming from a city of under 1 million people. The natives all leave SF because of the new generation moving in right now. And of the new generation of San Franciscans moving in, not many are staying unless they are the type that South Park depicted in their "smug" episode.
Back closer to the topic, if you're income is going to be the same and you can handle the snowy winter, Chicago is WAY better than SF. You have usable beach access in the summer, better public transportation, a bigger city and therefore more options of where to live/play/hang out, more attractive locals, and friendlier people where it's easier to make a lasting connections.
And as we said before, this is all opinions. So go ahead and attack for my opinions if you want, but they're my opinion. Just like you have your opinions that SF is the center of the universe (even though billions would disagree with you), other people prefer other places. Shocker, right!
I have to agree. I liked visiting but could never live there
I love SF and could live there, perhaps in retirement, but see my thing is I dont care about the people. I'll take the other amenties, setting, climate and enjoy.
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
3,887 posts, read 5,521,355 times
Reputation: 3107
I love living in Chicago. I enjoy visiting San Francisco, but I could not live there full time. It comes down to personal preference. Give both cities a fair chance and visit both (not just touristy areas, remember the neighborhoods). This thread sure has become unhelpful.
OP..what are the top 5 things you are looking for in a city and living environment? What is important to you? What are you interested in?
Sf, while beautiful, is probably the most over hyped city in the world. With the most obnoxious, aloof, provincial, entitled, narcissistic population I have ever seen.
People are ****ed up in the head there.
There is a reason most of the natives have left, and most transplants leave after a few years.
It is a tourism town that lives on hype. So you need a new generation of suckers, every few years.
"The most over hyped city in the world" it is not. I think bigger cities like New York and Los Angeles could vie for that. Also, I'd love to see what statistic you have for newcomers leaving "after a few years". Please, tell me. Because I'm pretty sure they don't pay 6k a month on rent just to get a taste of city living before moving back to Mobile, Alabama, or someplace back East- if that's what you're insinuating. People move here for jobs and to live their lives. They move out mostly because of money- besides, if both natives and transplants are leaving because of the people here, then who, of all of them, are the narcissists? There are more factors at play here than what you're essentially saying, that "the people here suck".
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
