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Columbus.... as in, Columbus OHIO? And where's ATLANTA!!!
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Columbus, GA since the question is about the deep south. Also, the OP specifically stated excluding Atlanta and New Orleans because they are already considered gay meccas.
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Columbus, GA since the question is about the deep south. Also, the OP specifically stated excluding Atlanta and New Orleans because they are already considered gay meccas.
At this point it's all just "gay tolerance" until any of the Deep South states actually have marriage equality. Then you can talk about "friendliness"...
At this point it's all just "gay tolerance" until any of the Deep South states actually have marriage equality. Then you can talk about "friendliness"...
A judge is going to be ruling on that fact in Louisiana shortly. We shall see.
At this point it's all just "gay tolerance" until any of the Deep South states actually have marriage equality. Then you can talk about "friendliness"...
Oh, please. As a gay man, I can assure you that many GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE see the gay marriage movement for the political albatross that it is. You can be completely open, accepted and "friendly" with gay people without embracing the "gay marriage" mantra. At the heart of the matter, "gay marriage" is simply about demanding the same legal perks that straight married people get -- tax breaks, health benefits, shared property. Don't be fooled for a minute that "gay marriage" is about some noble attempt to elevate same-sex couples to the same level of heterosexual couples. Gay men are far more promiscuous and less likely to commit to monogamous relationships that straight men. That's just gay culture. Sad, but true.
Further, I've lived my entire life in the South and have never -- not once -- been discriminated against for being gay. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Oh, please. As a gay man, I can assure you that many GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE see the gay marriage movement for the political albatross that it is. You can be completely open, accepted and "friendly" with gay people without embracing the "gay marriage" mantra. At the heart of the matter, "gay marriage" is simply about demanding the same legal perks that straight married people get -- tax breaks, health benefits, shared property. Don't be fooled for a minute that "gay marriage" is about some noble attempt to elevate same-sex couples to the same level of heterosexual couples. Gay men are far more promiscuous and less likely to commit to monogamous relationships that straight men. That's just gay culture. Sad, but true.
Further, I've lived my entire life in the South and have never -- not once -- been discriminated against for being gay. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Is there something wrong with demanding the same legal protections as straight couples?
On an individual level, maybe you're right. I can respect that.
However, once a person starts raising a family, those legal protections have far reaching ramifications. Everything from how much you pay in taxes to whether you have a say in your partner's health care boils down to legal context and the understanding of its importance in one's life. I think minimizing that importance comes at one's peril.
Another dirty little secret: gay parents are far, far more likely to adopt than straight parents.
Though gay parents are still a small part of the overall population (including the adopting population), their presence and influence on the adoption community is huge. Any increase in parents being open to adoption is a plus, and gay parents are clearly more open to that possibility. For that reason, I personally see establishing the right for gay people to marry and "normalize" their legal status as having intersectionality with the adoption movement as a whole.
Oh, please. As a gay man, I can assure you that many GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE see the gay marriage movement for the political albatross that it is. You can be completely open, accepted and "friendly" with gay people without embracing the "gay marriage" mantra. At the heart of the matter, "gay marriage" is simply about demanding the same legal perks that straight married people get -- tax breaks, health benefits, shared property. Don't be fooled for a minute that "gay marriage" is about some noble attempt to elevate same-sex couples to the same level of heterosexual couples. Gay men are far more promiscuous and less likely to commit to monogamous relationships that straight men. That's just gay culture. Sad, but true.
Further, I've lived my entire life in the South and have never -- not once -- been discriminated against for being gay. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Just because you're gay, that doesn't give you the right to make sweeping generalizations about the entire gay community. You seem to be under the assumption that just because something doesn't apply to you personally (ie, never experiencing discrimination, not being interested in gay marriage) then it doesn't need to be considered in regards to the gay community in general. You only speak for yourself, not all gay people. And the gay community is more than just gay men. My best friend is a lesbian, and she has been in a committed, monogamous relationship with her partner for 12 years. There are promiscuous people of all orientations, just like there are monogamous people of all orientations. If any individual gay person doesn't want to get married, that's perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean that no gay people should be allowed to marry just because some gay people have no interest in it. That's just ridiculous. There are plenty of straight people who don't want to get married either, but the option to get married is still there for those who choose to do so. And there is nothing wrong with gay couples wanting the same legal protections as straight couples.
Just because you're gay, that doesn't give you the right to make sweeping generalizations about the entire gay community. You seem to be under the assumption that just because something doesn't apply to you personally (ie, never experiencing discrimination, not being interested in gay marriage) then it doesn't need to be considered in regards to the gay community in general. You only speak for yourself, not all gay people. And the gay community is more than just gay men. My best friend is a lesbian, and she has been in a committed, monogamous relationship with her partner for 12 years. There are promiscuous people of all orientations, just like there are monogamous people of all orientations. If any individual gay person doesn't want to get married, that's perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean that no gay people should be allowed to marry just because some gay people have no interest in it. That's just ridiculous. There are plenty of straight people who don't want to get married either, but the option to get married is still there for those who choose to do so. And there is nothing wrong with gay couples wanting the same legal protections as straight couples.
I could not have said it better myself. Thank you!
At this point it's all just "gay tolerance" until any of the Deep South states actually have marriage equality. Then you can talk about "friendliness"...
This thread is about metros, not states. Things work much differently on the state level than on the local level politically. And let's not act like your state is some kind of pioneer when it comes to this; you all are very new to the game and when it was put up for a vote in CA, the results were the same as they were in Southern states. With that in mind, it would be foolish to say that metros in CA like SF and LA were only "gay tolerant" and not truly gay friendly before gays were allowed to marry.
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Don't hold your breath.
There's not been a judge to uphold any gay marriage bans (including those in other Southern states); I really don't see why Louisiana would be an exception.
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