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Well, as a Southerner, it's kind of funny to me to see how we're depicted. If television was even remotely accurate, we'd all be sitting out on our front porches, whittling as a way to bide time before our next Bible study, football game, or Klan meeting.
Well, as a Southerner, it's kind of funny to me to see how we're depicted. If television was even remotely accurate, we'd all be sitting out on our front porches, whittling as a way to bide time before our next Bible study, football game, or Klan meeting.
For what it's worth, I'm a New Englander and I'd be quite content sitting on my front porch whittling.
Well, as a Southerner, it's kind of funny to me to see how we're depicted. If television was even remotely accurate, we'd all be sitting out on our front porches, whittling as a way to bide time before our next Bible study, football game, or Klan meeting.
Everyone gets a taste of this - check out Fargo for ridiculous accents and hilarious Upper Midwestern stereotypes.
Not other cities in the countrydo compare to NYC - it's huge. It's the US metro. It's one of the world's great cities, and only has real competition when compared internationally. It doesn't mean you or I or anyone has to prefer it to anywhere else - the vast majority of the US population does not live there, obviously, and everyone is free to move wherever they want. But in terms of overall amenities and so on, Houston, LA, Chicago, and anywhere else in the US is going to pale overall when compared to it.
Everyone gets a taste of this - check out Fargo for ridiculous accents and hilarious Upper Midwestern stereotypes.
Not other cities in the countrydo compare to NYC - it's huge. It's the US metro. It's one of the world's great cities, and only has real competition when compared internationally. It doesn't mean you or I or anyone has to prefer it to anywhere else - the vast majority of the US population does not live there, obviously, and everyone is free to move wherever they want. But in terms of overall amenities and so on, Houston, LA, Chicago, and anywhere else in the US is going to pale overall when compared to it.
You have to figure in that if you live in NYC you aren't taking advantage of that great "culture" on a regular basis. Most people don't have the money to be eating out every single night, have the time to go to museums, get plastered at bars, etc.
I've lived and worked there, and NYC has another side to it that isn't romanticized on these forums. It's positively filthy and the people are a miserable breed with too many from NJ and Long Island. In addition, it's got a sickening corporate work culture compared to California, and the public transit system is straight up annoying (crap frequencies on the weekends and an overall dirty experience.) Oh, and once you live out that NYC summer dream (if you want to call it that) you have to deal with s*** weather for about 5 months.
So yes -- IMHO, the NYC experience is overly romanticized on these forums.
Well, lots of people (including myself) like 4 seasons and prefer that kind of weather to endless blistering southern heat. I do agree that it's a dirty city, the first time I went there a couple decades ago I couldn't believe how badly it smelled in the middle of summer. San Fran is the same way (the underreported smell/filth), but is still a top 5 US city. But to bring this back around to my actual point, no other US city comes close to offering the amount of amenities as NYC - it's just the way it is. Sheer numbers. And people do in fact take advantage of what the city has to offer, at least people I know take advantage of it. If you don't, you may as well live anywhere in the country, preferably somewhere cheaper. But that isn't remotely germane to this conversation.
You have to figure in that if you live in NYC you aren't taking advantage of that great "culture" on a regular basis. Most people don't have the money to be eating out every single night, have the time to go to museums, get plastered at bars, etc.
I've lived and worked there, and NYC has another side to it that isn't romanticized on these forums. It's positively filthy and the people are a miserable breed with too many from NJ and Long Island. In addition, it's got a sickening corporate work culture compared to California, and the public transit system is straight up annoying (crap frequencies on the weekends and an overall dirty experience.) Oh, and once you live out that NYC summer dream (if you want to call it that) you have to deal with s*** weather for about 5 months.
So yes -- IMHO, the NYC experience is overly romanticized on these forums.
You don't get it.
When people romanticize about living in New York, they're not romanticizing about being some working-class person living in a poor/fringe neighborhood. They dream of living like a Johnson & Johnson heir, Sarah Jessica Parker or some other wealthy celebrity or socialiate. Shopping on Madison Avenue, going to glam parties like the Met Ball, theatre, brunching at some 5 star restaurant every day and the like, living in some penthouse soaring the Manhattan skyline or one of those cutsey and expensive luxury townhouses. Just as the non wealthy side of Paris is rather scary, but when people dream of Paris, they dream of a glamorous life in central Paris, sitting in a chic cafe in the 7th Arrondissement with a baguette with the Eiffel Tower soaring behind them, popping into shops on Avenue Montaigne like they're in some Audrey Hepburn fantasy. No one dreams of going to Paris to live in some horrendous outer ring and commuting in every day. But some people will move there and put up with it because they have dreams they will "make it" and become the "top of the heap"! Cities like those are big draws for dreamers and the rich.
Since you seem to love Los Angeles, you know that the majority of the city is a fetid, and dumpy working class haven filled to the brim with illegals, miserable people and homeless, but when people dream of LA they dream of living in Beverly Hills or Malibu and being rich..not being working-class in the LA basin.
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When people romanticize about living in New York, they're not romanticizing about being some working-class person living in a poor/fringe neighborhood. They dream of living like a Johnson & Johnson heir, Sarah Jessica Parker or some other wealthy celebrity. Shopping all day, going to glam parties, brunching every day, going to fancy restaurants and the like.
Los Angeles is mostly a dump with bad jobs, but when people dream of LA they dream of living in Beverly Hills and being rich..not being working-class in the LA basin.
Do you get it?
I don't think you get it. That so-called NYC dream you mentioned is beyond pathetic by most standards. Brunching all day? I'd rather chew broken glass.
LA and bad jobs? Get real, son. Also people in LA have something that most young people in NYC don't -- a savings account.
And filled to the brim with illegals? I can just smell the douchey liberal NYC elitism from here.
I don't think you get it. That so-called NYC dream you mentioned is beyond pathetic by most standards. Brunching all day? I'd rather chew broken glass.
Quite frankly, I don't care about your personal dream. I'm talking about people in general.
Los Angeles has just three Fortune 500 companies left in the city, a problem the commission blamed partly on “red tape and overlapping bureaucracies.” Three decades ago, the city had 12 Fortune 500 headquarters. During the same period, New York City increased its count to a record 58.
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