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This is because the university of Wisconsin campus housing skews the data for Madison which is similar to other major college campus towns in the US such as State College, PA (which has been discussed before in this thread).
There you go, you totally nailed both our questions
^ Again, you guys are making this out to be much more than it is. I'm not talking about continuation, or whatever. It's merely "How many people live above this density threshold in various cities." I didn't even do any data interpretation on this. I merely presented the data. You're saying "it's not a good way to do it" but the fact is that there was no point in the entire thread other than showing facts.
It's like saying "How many people in these cities live in areas above $100K/year median household income?" and then someone coming in and saying "BUT that doesn't signify the richest areas of the city!" True, but misinterpretation of the initial point.
understood but on the whole this may not show much more than large complexes within a block. Block at times can be too small zip too large etc.
understood but on the whole this may not show much more than large complexes within a block. Block at times can be too small zip too large etc.
I completely agree with what you guys are saying when related to what you just said. In the end, the thread is more like "If you are a resident of _____ city, what are the chances of you living in a few block radius where the density is above _____."
From the 2010 Census, I collected data on which cities have the most people living at a minimum of 70K people per sq mile density rate outside of NYC. We all know NYC kills the competition when it comes to this, but I was curious to see how other cities in the country stacked up. This is by Census Block Group
1. Chicago, IL | 72,688 people
2. Los Angeles, CA | 65,086 people
3. San Francisco, CA | 50,204 people
4. Boston, MA | 37,410 people
5. Honolulu, HI | 26,967 people
6. Norfolk, VA | 19,506 people
7. West New York, NJ | 12,167 people
8. Union City, NJ | 11,307 people
9. Washington, DC | 10,631 people
10. Miami, FL | 8,390 people
11. Baltimore, MD | 7,307 people
12. Philadelphia, PA | 6,882 people
13. Arlington, VA | 5,806 people
14. State College, PA | 5,509 people
15. San Quentin, CA | 4,854 people
16. Berkeley, CA | 4,494 people
17. Santa Ana, CA | 4,492 people
18. Fontainebleu, FL | 4,191 people
19. Jersey City, NJ | 3,754 people
20. San Jose, CA | 3,703 people
21. Minneapolis, MN | 3,043 people
22. San Rafael, CA | 2,956 people
23. Knoxville, TN | 2,951 people
24. Cliffside Park, NJ | 2,858 people
25. Adelphi, MD | 2,226 people
26. Madison, WI | 1,975 people
27. Guttenberg, NJ | 1,955 people
28. Trenton, NJ | 1,899 people
29. Dallas County, TX | 1,835 people
30. Saint Cloud, MN | 1,797 people
31. Passaic, NJ | 1,777 people
32. Alexandria, VA | 1,558 people
33. Fort Lee, NJ | 1,276 people
34. Waimalu, HI | 1,000 people
35. Miami Beach, FL | 950 people
36. Seattle, WA | 801 people
By Percentage (City Population of at least 250K)
1. Honolulu, HI | 8% of people
2. San Francisco, CA | 6.23% of people
3. Boston, MA | 6.06% of people
4. Chicago, IL | 2.7% of people
5. Miami, FL | 2.1% of people
6. Washington, DC | 1.77% of people
7. Los Angeles, CA | 1.72% of people
8. Santa Ana, CA | 1.38% of people
9. Baltimore, MD | 1.18% of people
10. Minneapolis, MN | 0.8% of people
11. Philadelphia, PA | 0.45% of people
12. San Jose, CA | 0.39% of people
13. Seattle, WA | 0.13% of people
14. Dallas County, TX | 0.08% of people
Cool post, no big surprises in the top 5. I don't understand why people are giving you so much crap - this is pure statistics and you didn't editorialize at all. Haterz gone hate I guess.
I wonder if LA would do even better with some places like Glendale, West Hollywood and Long Beach included. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have a census block group or two over 70k. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't either
I completely agree with what you guys are saying when related to what you just said. In the end, the thread is more like "If you are a resident of _____ city, what are the chances of you living in a few block radius where the density is above _____."
sort of I suppose
probably tracts or continuous tracts above 30 or 40 are probably even more relevant
Cool post, no big surprises in the top 5. I don't understand why people are giving you so much crap - this is pure statistics and you didn't editorialize at all. Haterz gone hate I guess.
I wonder if LA would do even better with some places like Glendale, West Hollywood and Long Beach included. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have a census block group or two over 70k. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't either
Yeah the top 5 is not that surprising, though I will say I thought LA had less people than that at that density clip. I also thought Philadelphia and Baltimore would have had more, but I guess not. And yeah, they're merely facts from the census.
I'm only familiar with Glendale a little bit - I know the area with a handful of high rises near the Venture Fwy, and we have some friends who live about a mile from there. My grandma lived in Pasadena and since some of my family lives in the Woodland Hills/Calabasas area, I always did that drive. I like it a lot. I need to visit again, haha. I haven't been to LA in a few years. For Glendale though, on initial look it varies a lot. Some are under 10K/sq mi while others are between 25K/sq mi and 45K/sq mi
I think it would also be cool to expand this list to 50K/sq mi and higher. You'd probably see more from Philadelphia, for example - that's my guess at least.
^ Again, you guys are making this out to be much more than it is. I'm not talking about continuation, or whatever. It's merely "How many people live above this density threshold in various cities." I didn't even do any data interpretation on this. I merely presented the data. You're saying "it's not a good way to do it" but the fact is that there was no point in the entire thread other than showing facts.
It's like saying "How many people in these cities live in areas above $100K/year median household income?" and then someone coming in and saying "BUT that doesn't signify the richest areas of the city!" True, but misinterpretation of the initial point.
Basically, it is pretty much straight forward information.
^ Again, you guys are making this out to be much more than it is. I'm not talking about continuation, or whatever. It's merely "How many people live above this density threshold in various cities." I didn't even do any data interpretation on this. I merely presented the data. You're saying "it's not a good way to do it" but the fact is that there was no point in the entire thread other than showing facts.
These aren't really "facts". It's merely one method for estimating the number of people living at that density and as its already been explained it's a poor one. It's very misleading to use a stat that calculates "per square mile" and then use an area so much smaller than a square mile. The smaller the area of comparison the more people there will be per square mile.
These aren't really "facts". It's merely one method for estimating the number of people living at that density and as its already been explained it's a poor one. It's very misleading to use a stat that calculates "per square mile" and then use an area so much smaller than a square mile. The smaller the area of comparison the more people there will be per square mile.
Actually, they are facts. There are Census Block Groups for each city, and for each of them they have a density. And these are the sums of the ones that are at least 70K/sq mi. If you don't understand how that's fact, then you don't understand what a fact is.
Or, USA Location information - USA.com has done a great job of getting all the data online so you don't have to deal with importing gigs of data into databases yourself.
From the 2010 Census, I collected data on which cities have the most people living at a minimum of 70K people per sq mile density rate outside of NYC. We all know NYC kills the competition when it comes to this, but I was curious to see how other cities in the country stacked up. This is by Census Block Group
1. Chicago, IL | 72,688 people
2. Los Angeles, CA | 65,086 people
3. San Francisco, CA | 50,204 people
4. Boston, MA | 37,410 people
5. Honolulu, HI | 26,967 people
6. Norfolk, VA | 19,506 people
7. West New York, NJ | 12,167 people
8. Union City, NJ | 11,307 people
9. Washington, DC | 10,631 people
10. Miami, FL | 8,390 people
11. Baltimore, MD | 7,307 people
12. Philadelphia, PA | 6,882 people
13. Arlington, VA | 5,806 people
14. State College, PA | 5,509 people
15. San Quentin, CA | 4,854 people
16. Berkeley, CA | 4,494 people
17. Santa Ana, CA | 4,492 people
18. Fontainebleu, FL | 4,191 people
19. Jersey City, NJ | 3,754 people
20. San Jose, CA | 3,703 people
21. Minneapolis, MN | 3,043 people
22. San Rafael, CA | 2,956 people
23. Knoxville, TN | 2,951 people
24. Cliffside Park, NJ | 2,858 people
25. Adelphi, MD | 2,226 people
26. Madison, WI | 1,975 people
27. Guttenberg, NJ | 1,955 people
28. Trenton, NJ | 1,899 people
29. Dallas County, TX | 1,835 people
30. Saint Cloud, MN | 1,797 people
31. Passaic, NJ | 1,777 people
32. Alexandria, VA | 1,558 people
33. Fort Lee, NJ | 1,276 people
34. Waimalu, HI | 1,000 people
35. Miami Beach, FL | 950 people
36. Seattle, WA | 801 people
By Percentage (City Population of at least 250K)
1. Honolulu, HI | 8% of people
2. San Francisco, CA | 6.23% of people
3. Boston, MA | 6.06% of people
4. Chicago, IL | 2.7% of people
5. Miami, FL | 2.1% of people
6. Washington, DC | 1.77% of people
7. Los Angeles, CA | 1.72% of people
8. Santa Ana, CA | 1.38% of people
9. Baltimore, MD | 1.18% of people
10. Minneapolis, MN | 0.8% of people
11. Philadelphia, PA | 0.45% of people
12. San Jose, CA | 0.39% of people
13. Seattle, WA | 0.13% of people
14. Dallas County, TX | 0.08% of people
Is a census block group smaller or larger than a census tract?
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