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As you are aware, FL is a huge state and there are various microclimates even within the same region, such as SoFla and its coastal areas. Yes, breezes do make a big difference. Miami Beach also seemingly gets less daily precipitation than Broward beaches. It is also demonstrably more comfortable than FL West Coast or Gulf beaches during the summer. A number of my friends who have visited from NYC and Long Island have found it more comfortable here during the summer, no worse, because of breezes.
My first choice coming from the NE would be to visit CA during the summer months but many do come for the SoFla beaches in the summer just as some did go on Caribbean cruises pre-Covid. It’s also definitely more tolerable to me than Southwest “dry heat” desert cities—one can be outdoors in the middle of the day here, not trapped inside until sunset. I would not want to be more than a mile or two off the coast with minimal shade, however, in any part of FL in the summer as it starts getting demonstrably hotter the further inland you get....I moved here from San Diego and have adapted quite well to the weather here, including summer.
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Originally Posted by Arcenal352
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Why anyone would want to travel to Florida for vacation in the summer, coming from NE cities, is beyond me.
Last summer, I took an Amtrak to Philly, and I remember the people asking me when I got off how my vacation in Florida was. I told them "I live there. I'm going on vacation in Philly and NYC." And they asked me "WHY???" And that's when I realized that they must be completely clueless as to how miserable Florida gets during the summer. Heck, even the beaches can be quite unpleasant, as the sand tends to get blistering hot, and unless there's a strong breeze or you're in the water, the sun will burn you alive.
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As you are aware, FL is a huge state and there are various microclimates even within the same region, such as SoFla and its coastal areas. Yes, breezes do make a big difference. Miami Beach also seemingly gets less precipitation than Broward beaches. It is also demonstrably more comfortable than FL West Coast or Gulf beaches during the summer. A number of my friends who have visited from NYC and Long Island have found it more comfortable here during the summer, no worse, because of breezes.
My first choice coming from the NE would be to visit CA during the summer months but many do come for the SoFla beaches in the summer just as some did go on Caribbean cruises pre-Covid. It’s also definitely more tolerable to me than Southwest “dry heat” desert cities—one can be outdoors in the middle of the day here, not trapped inside until sunset. I would not want to be more than a mile or two off the coast with minimal shade, however, in any part of FL in the summer as it starts getting demonstrably hotter the further inland you get.
Yes, I'm aware.
I'm referring to Florida in general. There are some areas that feel slightly better, but overall, I'd pick a Jersey beach in July over any Florida beach. But that's just me. It cools down significantly more at night there than it does in FL, and that makes a huge difference.
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We have that here...it’s called Delray Beach...lol
Hamptons more my style in NE (or was).
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Originally Posted by Arcenal352
Right...
Why anyone would want to travel to Florida for vacation in the summer, coming from NE cities, is beyond me.
Last summer, I took an Amtrak to Philly, and I remember the people asking me when I got off how my vacation in Florida was. I told them "I live there. I'm going on vacation in Philly and NYC." And they asked me "WHY???" And that's when I realized that they must be completely clueless as to how miserable Florida gets during the summer. Heck, even the beaches can be quite unpleasant, as the sand tends to get blistering hot, and unless there's a strong breeze or you're in the water, the sun will burn you alive.
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Originally Posted by Arcenal352
Yes, I'm aware.
I'm referring to Florida in general. There are some areas that feel slightly better, but overall, I'd pick a Jersey beach in July over any Florida beach. But that's just me. It cools down significantly more at night there than it does in FL, and that makes a huge difference.
You do the same thing for NYC and Orlando. No one questions the charges you levy on either city so perhaps afford him the same rights.
I think it's more than just NYC and Orlando. I like both cities but I don't buy the respective titles of Greatest City In the World and Affordable and Sprawly! Hence why NYC is literally the most common city for most overrated. Also I've lived in NYC and Orlando both, so I have room to commentate on both.
But when something is factually wrong, like Roxbury and Dorchester being more than half of the core when it's more.or less like 15% at Most.. yeah I will question the merits of the post.
And so be it, my favorite large cities include Boston, Chicago, DC, LA, Seattle and Charlotte. Is that wrong?
Portland ME is only $200/sqft, has a very nice and large central area with a bunch of independent restaurants. Great housing near the water. Reasonable traffic. Great outdoors nearby.
Portland may have been underrated 25 years ago, but I don't see how anyone could make the argument that it's underrated today. Can you think of another comparably sized city (540k in the metro) that gets as much national attention as Portland? Asheville, Savannah, Charleston (if you count the 800k metro as "comparably sized" to Portland) and maybe Madison are all that come to mind, and none of those are underrated. Portland's all over the "best of" and "must visit" lists for small cities, restaurants, scenery, travel, etc. It's at the top of every New England travel brochure. Portland is well established as an "IT" city for both travel and as a place to live, and it has been for 20 or more years now.
Of course it's cheaper than Boston. Almost every place in America is. But you're comparing a small coastal city with 500k in a land area twice the size of Rhode Island to one of America's top 10 largest metros and a booming economy. Boston is obviously going to be more expensive. Portland actually has real issues with its real estate market - housing prices are often dramatically higher than what buyers/renters can afford due to limited job opportunities and salaries that don't match. Like other tourist destinations, locals are being priced out by second home owners and retirees.
If we're talking "underrated" in New England, there aren't many - it's been a popular region to live and visit for a long time. Portsmouth, NH may be worth consideration - lots of the same charms as Portland but closer to Boston and not as visible on the tourist radar yet. I think Montpelier is a pretty cool small city too. Gloucester has shed much of its gritty image. Providence has established itself as an attractive places to visit and/or live. Even New Bedford surprises people with its well preserved historic downtown and great galleries, restaurants, and shops. But Portland? It's been a media darling for a long, long, long time. Smaller/cheaper than Boston does not mean it's underrated.
I think it's more than just NYC and Orlando. I like both cities but I don't buy the respective titles of Greatest City In the World and Affordable and Sprawly! Hence why NYC is literally the most common city for most overrated. Also I've lived in NYC and Orlando both, so I have room to commentate on both.
But when something is factually wrong, like Roxbury and Dorchester being more than half of the core when it's more.or less like 15% at Most.. yeah I will question the merits of the post.
And so be it, my favorite large cities include Boston, Chicago, DC, LA, Seattle and Charlotte. Is that wrong?
No it’s not wrong at all. You are entitled to your opinion, and that other poster is entitled to his. I just found it amusingly ironic that you strategically seem to go out of your way to bash NYC and Orlando, but when someone does it to one of your favorites, suddenly, it’s “suspicious,” when in fact, the literal exact same thing can be said about you and those cities you frequently denigrate and sneer at, respectively. These aren’t isolated incidents either; a quick glance at your post history shows this is your MO. And that’s completely fine, but you calling someone else out for it is laughably hypocritical.
No it’s not wrong at all. You are entitled to your opinion, and that other poster is entitled to his. I just found it amusingly ironic that you strategically seem to go out of your way to bash NYC and Orlando, but when someone does it to one of your favorites, suddenly, it’s “suspicious,” when in fact, the literal exact same thing can be said about you and those cities you frequently denigrate and sneer at, respectively. These aren’t isolated incidents either; a quick glance at your post history shows this is your MO. And that’s completely fine, but you calling someone else out for it is laughably hypocritical.
Well yeah... I can't critique Atlanta or Chicago... I haven't lived there. The only cities I can truly critique are NY BOS ORL and a few smaller locales nearby. So of the three cities I have lived in, it's quite ironic I comment on BOS NY ORL the most. Hmm...
And if you look at my post history, nearly half of what I say about Boston.... Isn't positive. So I don't get your motive here? That I fact checked guineas for annoying posters here with factually incorrect data?
I feel like you got dumped by a Boston Girl/Guy or something really self-inflicted bad happened to you there.
The way you grind on it really is suspicious.
It's because of people like you that I grind on Boston. It is fact that Dorchester, Roxbury, Mattapan, Roslindale, Hyde Park, East Boston represent a significant amount of population and land mass in Boston, way more than the 15% you quoted. Please check your own facts about Boston, look at a map of Boston and add up some population numbers. Boston is overrated because what people associate with it is not at all representative of nearly half its population and land area.
Boston has some gleaming tourist areas with some very hohum yet expensive parts representing the rest. The ugly parts of the city are less apparent to a tourist or one percenter than many other cities in America, where the homeless and grime are often very visible in the touristy parts. For instance, in Seattle, the tourist trap Pike Place has a significant amount of riff raff just a block away. You don't see this as much walking down Charles or Newbury St in Boston. They are instead in Dudley Sq or South Bay. But tourists would never go to those places as all the tourist traps are in a tiny area of land in Boston. Thus the overrating among tourists and trust fund babies.
No tourist thinks of a street full of old chipped paint triple deckers in Roslindale that still costs half a million for 1000sqft when they visit Boston. But the irony is that is far more descriptive of what Boston is actually like than the Beacon Hill rowhouses.
The number of Bostonians here who think their dung doesn't smell is hilarious.
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