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A part of a city vs an totally independent city? And they really aren't similar at all, so I don't even know how to compare.
Staten Island is a bedroom community, the most Italian place in the U.S., and pretty much all residential.
Long Beach is a huge seaport, a downtown, lots of slummy areas, some nice areas.
Staten Island also has lots of slummy areas (Port Richmond) and nice areas (Todt Hill). Staten Island is not all the same even though it is basically a bedroom community. Interestingly, many FDNY and NYPD live on Staten Island and work throughout the city. I believe the island lost 300 on 9/11, mostly first responders. Considering the whole state of NJ lost like 700 people, that's a lot for one borough that is often overlooked as insignificant and made fun of by the other 4.
This fact about nice/slummy areas may be the only similarity between the two.
One thing is for sure Staten Island is closer to the core of NYC than LB is to DTLA or the Westside. The furthest point on Staten Island is ~19 miles from Lower Manhattan (closest point is 6 miles), DT Long Beach is 19 miles from DTLA and 23 from Santa Monica.
A part of a city vs an totally independent city? And they really aren't similar at all, so I don't even know how to compare.
Staten Island is a bedroom community, the most Italian place in the U.S., and pretty much all residential.
Long Beach is a huge seaport, a downtown, lots of slummy areas, some nice areas.
Well, they have similarities in the accessibility to the more popular parts of the metro, the sort of middle class and blue collar population they have, seaside location, and general physical and population size (and therefore density). Aside from that, yea, they are pretty different. Staten Island doesn't really have a sizable industry within its boundaries and instead of a real downtown, it has a much larger number of what essentially are small town main streets. I know Bloomberg and NYCEDC has/had tried to push for a more cohesive downtown, but without a major industry anchoring things, it doesn't seem too likely. Staten Island does strangely have some nicer beaches than Long Beach though.
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Originally Posted by munchitup
One thing is for sure Staten Island is closer to the core of NYC than LB is to DTLA or the Westside. The furthest point on Staten Island is ~19 miles from Lower Manhattan (closest point is 6 miles), DT Long Beach is 19 miles from DTLA and 23 from Santa Monica.
Though the difference is that Staten Island requires a really roundabout drive to get to Lower Manhattan or a ferry ride from one terminal to another, so the accessibility of one from the other isn't that far off.
One thing is for sure Staten Island is closer to the core of NYC than LB is to DTLA or the Westside. The furthest point on Staten Island is ~19 miles from Lower Manhattan (closest point is 6 miles), DT Long Beach is 19 miles from DTLA and 23 from Santa Monica.
Middle-ish spot in Staten Island to Manhattan (Union Square):
16 miles. 40 minutes by car without traffic, currently 52 with. $10.80 toll round trip, half you take one of the free bridges instead adding 15 minutes. But where does one park for cheap near Union Square? Nowhere on a Friday night. 1hr10min $5 express bus ride including walking, but I randomly picked a spot not a long walk from a stop.
24 miles. 29 minutes by car without traffic, currently 48 with. Transit ride is about an hour, add more time if you starting and/or end point isn't on the blue line.
It's like Goodfellas vs. Snoop Dogg and Sublime...
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