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I understand. But the reason I constantly debate these points with people is because no one can ever tell me what Deep South attributes are absent from Houston. All they can ever tell me is what Houston has that can't be found in the Deep South, and, as you yourself said, that exact same argument can be made for Atlanta. It's likely that I'll never get a real answer.
Even once you get outside of discussing the major cities, every single person who usually participates in these debates has their own definition of what the Deep South is. No two people seem to agree on any specific barriers. I still insist that my definition is the most historically and culturally conclusive, and feel that I have objectively demonstrated this repeatedly, but I'm learning to live with opposing opinions. A while back I told myself that this was one topic I wasn't allowed to participate in, since people don't seem to respond well to me telling them that they're wrong.
Oh boy... People don't respond well to you telling them that they're wrong? Um, ok... Hahaha! Try flipping that in reverse, and then you're on to something.
Perhaps it's that you continuously convince yourself that you're always right, and anyone who disagrees with you or has a different point of view are the ones who are "wrong"?
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Hey, you disagree with me quite often as well
I'm just sharing my opinions and perspective. I don't expect everybody to agree with them. I know they're just opinions. However, many times my opinions are shared by many other people. When it comes to our respective hometown (I'm assuming you live in Houston, or at least grew up there), you and I tend to butt heads. That's fine. I take no personal offense to anything you have said. Not here, or in any previous discussion.
Oh boy... People don't respond well to you telling them that they're wrong? Um, ok... Hahaha! Try flipping that in reverse, and then you're on to something.
I don't get it.
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Perhaps it's that you continuously convince yourself that you're always right, and anyone who disagrees with you or has a different point of view are the ones who are "wrong"?
I'm not always right, but if I'm able to demonstrate that my argument is based more on fact and historical evidence while the other person's argument is inconclusive, then I certainly feel that I have room to insist that they are wrong and I am right. Not that it matters since facts get little respect here. Even a Harvard scholar won't be taken seriously on City Data.
I'm not always right, but if I'm able to demonstrate that my argument is based more on fact and historical evidence while the other person's argument is inconclusive, then I certainly feel that I have room to insist that they are wrong and I am right.
My personal opinion is that Houston is the deep south thru and thru. I could see where some would disagree with that, but to me, Houston feels like a fast, diverse version of a deep south city, that has alot of hispanics. Now, i DONT think it would be the quintessential deep south city, because of these very attributes...but i would and do classify it as a deep south city, in general, but especially its suburbs in particular.
My personal opinion is that Houston is the deep south thru and thru. I could see where some would disagree with that, but to me, Houston feels like a fast, diverse version of a deep south city, that has alot of hispanics. Now, i DONT think it would be the quintessential deep south city, because of these very attributes...but i would and do classify it as a deep south city, in general, but especially its suburbs in particular.
What exactly is it about Houston that makes you think of it as a deep South city? Especially it's suburbs?
Upper South : Norfolk, VA. Southern enough with northern attributes. Still retains it charm.
Deep South: Birmingham, AL. Undoubtedly southern, with all the southern hospitality.
I know I said I'm done, but I'm especially interested in your answer.
It becomes simply the South but a different aspect of the South. Just like Miami or even Orlando is. There maybe some neighborhoods that has resembles the deep south. I can find areas in South Florida that resemble the deep south. I do not under any circumstance get the same vibe in most of Houston that I would get in say Birmingham or Jackson, Mississippi. Heck, I don't get the same vibe even from Memphis compared to Houston. It feels like a very international gulf coast southern city. Like a larger Tampa Bay area without the amount of retirees.
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