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When I saw this first 360° in Baltimore.... It was like CHICAGO'S greystones . Giving me a perfect opportunity to show difference in Rows vs. Singles... FOR THE SAME STYLE OF HOMES.
THESE GREYSTONES ARE NEAR WRIGLEY FIELD ...NOT CHEAP TODAY. BUT I USE IN COMPARING TO THE ABOVE BALTIMORE GREYSTONES....BUILT AS ROWS.
TO ME CHICAGO TO DO THEM AS SINGLES..BELOW WITH FRONT LAWNS ⤵ IS A BETTER CHOICE THEN IF THEY WERE ROWS TO THE SIDEWALKS ⤴ ON TOP THAT WAS POSTED.
I saved this 360° of what I thought were ALL 1900 Chicago Cottages? I found out some are from 1900 some are new. The new ones in this gentrified block go for $1 million I was floored ...the originals for $300,000+ Still not cheap . ⤵
This is a more ordinary old brick 1900 Cottage home neighborhood not gentrified. Some empty lots might get filled in. BUT MY POINT IS THIS TO ME FOR THE MASSES IS SUPERIOR THEN WALLED BRICK ROWS TO THE SIDEWALK? THIS ORDINARY CHICAGO BLOCK ⤵
^^^I understand what your saying, as a matter of fact this last link was a few blocks from where we
lived as kids (also lived in Ukrainian village). Another home was near where my grandmother lived
(a cottage home) which she paid $4000.00 for it in 1952. So yes, I love the bungalows from the 30's and would love to have one but you are correct - they are expensive.
I just wanted to give Philly some credit since I saw some great homes there as well.
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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I realize many Row homes have value and warrant in Big cities. Just when these cities built for the Masses, working class housing much was bland. walled rows on alley size streets. While a city as Chicago chose Mostly singles on a street grid that gave front Lawn space all tree-lined and alleys not for housing... but garbage pick-up, power lines and garages... once the car age came in. The managed to maintain very close density to predominately Row home cities
No one answered the question??? If to leave Rows was a better choice .... for big city neighborhoods?
Ironically now elaborate Townhouse areas are popping up in downtown Chicago.... This one looks like it should be in Boston⤵
I come from Detroit, a city derided for being suburban in layout. I prefer the single family detached house:
1. Rowhouses are too narrow - 15 feet wide. Single family houses and 2-family flats in Chicago and Detroit are 20-25 feet wide.
2. Most rowhouses do not have front porches. In Detroit, I like being able to sit on my wide front porches and talk with our neighbors who are walking down the street. With those rowhouses, there is really no place to sit, except for the steps.
3. Single family houses (in Detroit) offer natural (sun)light on 4 sides of the house, as opposed to just the front and back on the rowhouses. Also, for rowhouses, it is more common to hear your neighbors talking through the walls of the adjacent rowhouse.
Obviously, single family homes will result in less population density, so that's the trade-off.
Even a city like Philly would have similar options to the Detroit example - though this is what would be considered one of the least urban areas of the city.
Rowhouses can be functional and awful - I more like the environment and can live with the drawbacks to be so close to everything yet with a residential street just 2 minutes from everything yet some peace and quiet.
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I come from Detroit, a city derided for being suburban in layout. I prefer the single family detached house:
1. Rowhouses are too narrow - 15 feet wide. Single family houses and 2-family flats in Chicago and Detroit are 20-25 feet wide.
2. Most rowhouses do not have front porches. In Detroit, I like being able to sit on my wide front porches and talk with our neighbors who are walking down the street. With those rowhouses, there is really no place to sit, except for the steps.
3. Single family houses (in Detroit) offer natural (sun)light on 4 sides of the house, as opposed to just the front and back on the rowhouses. Also, for rowhouses, it is more common to hear your neighbors talking through the walls of the adjacent rowhouse.
Obviously, single family homes will result in less population density, so that's the trade-off.
Yes I too love them Tudor(gingerbread) homes. Chicago has some nice Tudor neighborhoods I always liked... always will be classic
Man, this is beautiful. So gritty. So far removed from nature. Makes you feel like you're in an ocean of row homes. I live in Chicago but I would love to live in a neighborhood that looked like this.
Rowhomes are period-specific. They have nothing to do with "housing choice".
Chicago is a newer city, built after the rowhome era, so obviously won't be characterized by rowhomes. The Midwest cities that are characterized by rowhomes are Cincy and St. Louis, and they were the biggest and most important Midwest cities during the rowhome era.
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Rowhomes are period-specific. They have nothing to do with "housing choice".
Chicago is a newer city, built after the rowhome era, so obviously won't be characterized by rowhomes. The Midwest cities that are characterized by rowhomes are Cincy and St. Louis, and they were the biggest and most important Midwest cities during the rowhome era.
OMG NOLA .... Do you realize cities like Philly and Baltimore.. even Pittsburgh. Didn't just build Row homes before the 20th century??? THEY CONTINUED BUILDING ROW HOMES ALL THROUGH THE 20th CENTURY. Chicago merely after some Victorian and Greystone/Brownstone examples pre-1800s for the most part.... chose the Cottage home....... and then bungalow era by 1920 kicked in.. for the working man.WHILE THE EASTERN CITIES CONTINUED BUILDING ROWS ... then later some HALF-DOUBLES, 2 homes attached then detached... the 2 attached .....FROM....FOR THE WORKING MANS PLAIN ROWS TO SIDEWALKS LIKE A SOLID WALL ...WHOLE BLOCKS....TO UPPER CLASSES MORE DECORATIVE ROWS WITH SOME SETBACKS.
Man, this is beautiful. So gritty. So far removed from nature. Makes you feel like you're in an ocean of row homes. I live in Chicago but I would love to live in a neighborhood that looked like this.
It's gritty because it's the ghetto. If this was a fully gentrified area, it would look a lot nicer and less gritty. Regardless, I have no desire to live in a neighborhood like that though it looks better than the typical standard rowhouse neighborhood in Philly or Baltimore.
The Wire shown me how ugly Baltimore can be....rowhouse hell.
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I was floored ...the originals for $300,000+ Still not cheap . ⤵
