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Okay, this thread isn't about LA, but that is simply incorrect. This isn't an opinion. The Greater LA Metro isn't defined by Lancaster (which is within the Mojave). The majority of Greater LA is Coastal Sage Scrub/ Chaparral/ California grasslands. All you have to do is go on a good hike, whether in the Angeles National Forest, Santa Monica Mountains or Laguna Canyon Wilderness Park, to get an idea of how this place looked like without human inhabitants. I'll give you a clue: not a desert. Plant Communities - LandscapeResource.com
Geez...that's annoying. Aren't people entitled to simply have their opinions without having to explain them away to people who can't take no for an answer?
If we are doing a compare and contrast between two places, it would be useful for the OP and other's considering moving to one of those places to know what criteria is being used to make such statements. Otherwise, yes people are entitled to their opinions, but they are pretty worthless to anyone trying to gauge what an area/city/state/wtv is like.
If we are doing a compare and contrast between two places, it would be useful for the OP and other's considering moving to one of those places to know what criteria is being used to make such statements. Otherwise, yes people are entitled to their opinions, but they are pretty worthless to anyone trying to gauge what an area/city/state/wtv is like.
Yes, you are correct; however, there is a difference between responding to the OP versus having to answer to a homer. As you are well aware, it is just as important for posters to speak to what they know about a locale rather than making faulty assumptions without doing some research first.
Geez...that's annoying. Aren't people entitled to simply have their opinions without having to explain them away to people who can't take no for an answer?
IMO, no. I think it's disingenuous and unproductive to just blurt out the "food, weather, entertainment sucks." That's not the point of this forum. If you ask me what I don't like about Atlanta's chinese cuisine, "it sucks" just isn't helpful. Compare it with another city or name specific areas it's lacking.
This forum is supposed to help those of us who are thinking of relocation.
I like the mountains around Denver but I'd probably pick phoenix, here is why.
Skiing or snowboarding would never be a regular activity for me, more like some nice retreat a couple times a month if that. And Phoenix has some skiing in flagstaff, I personally never went there to ski, but it's doable on a weekend trip, a bit farther than Denver's bazillion ski resorts, but oh well.
Meaning, my criteria will come down to which city I would rather live in. I just don't want to do cold weather anymore, I don't want to do the whole driving in snow thing anymore. While I know Denver's winters are quite mild compared to the midwest, it still gets cold (in the morning) and it still gets snow. I'd avoid all that for Phoenix, though I'd pay for it by a terrible summer. A price I'm willing to pay.
Then there is the fact Pheonix is within short trips (2-5 hours) of San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Puerto Penasco/Mexico, and what have you. Denver is much much more isolated.
In terms of urbanity, I've only been to Denver to ski so that means drive immediately out to nearby resort towns. However, from the briefest and most superficial of impressions, Denver isn't much more urban than Pheonix, if it all. It's also a sprawly American style city.
IMO, no. I think it's disingenuous and unproductive to just blurt out the "food, weather, entertainment sucks." That's not the point of this forum. If you ask me what I don't like about Atlanta's chinese cuisine, "it sucks" just isn't helpful. Compare it with another city or name specific areas it's lacking.
This forum is supposed to help those of us who are thinking of relocation.
Of course it is "supposed" to help those who are thinking of relocation. However, you have to admit that it becomes just as annoying when homers won't shut up about wanting to know WHY someone doesn't like their city as it is when ignorant posters throw out faulty assumptions about other cities.
I like the mountains around Denver but I'd probably pick phoenix, here is why.
Skiing or snowboarding would never be a regular activity for me, more like some nice retreat a couple times a month if that. And Phoenix has some skiing in flagstaff, I personally never went there to ski, but it's doable on a weekend trip, a bit farther than Denver's bazillion ski resorts, but oh well.
Meaning, my criteria will come down to which city I would rather live in. I just don't want to do cold weather anymore, I don't want to do the whole driving in snow thing anymore. While I know Denver's winters are quite mild compared to the midwest, it still gets cold (in the morning) and it still gets snow. I'd avoid all that for Phoenix, though I'd pay for it by a terrible summer. A price I'm willing to pay.
Then there is the fact Pheonix is within short trips (2-5 hours) of San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Puerto Penasco/Mexico, and what have you. Denver is much much more isolated.
In terms of urbanity, I've only been to Denver to ski so that means drive immediately out to nearby resort towns. However, from the briefest and most superficial of impressions, Denver isn't much more urban than Pheonix, if it all. It's also a sprawly American style city.
I'm with you on this, especially if you want to avoid any sort of cold weather.
Keep in mind from a Southwest, NorCal, SoCal perspective, Denver is very COLD in the winter and fall with temperature and weather extremes, they also exaggerate how much sun they really get. If the sun peaks out for a few seconds, they mark it as a sunny day. In the Southwest and California we don't call it a sunny day unless its completely cloudless. Using Colorado standards, Arizona and California would measure 365 days of sun!
Also, Colorado, not Denver has a lot of ski resorts and only a few are an "hour away". Several are over 3hrs away. Flagstaff is about 2 hrs away from Phoenix.
I'm with you on this, especially if you want to avoid any sort of cold weather.
Keep in mind from a Southwest, NorCal, SoCal perspective, Denver is very COLD in the winter and fall with temperature and weather extremes, they also exaggerate how much sun they really get. If the sun peaks out for a few seconds, they mark it as a sunny day. In the Southwest and California we don't call it a sunny day unless its completely cloudless. Using Colorado standards, Arizona and California would measure 365 days of sun!
Also, Colorado, not Denver has a lot of ski resorts and only a few are an "hour away". Several are over 3hrs away. Flagstaff is about 2 hrs away from Phoenix.
They are a lot closer to Denver than the resorts are to Sacramento.
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