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Old 04-09-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Miami doesn't have narrow streets or wide sidewalks no matter how small the city limits are. Center City Philadelphia is the quintessential walkable neighborhood and you can't find a better definition.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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Walk Score

1. New York City - 88
2. San Francisco - 84
3. Boston - 80
4. Philadelphia - 77
5. Miami - 76
6. Chicago - 75
7. Washington DC - 74
8. Seattle - 71
9. Oakland - 69
10. Baltimore - 66


Transit Score

1. New York City - 81
2. San Francisco - 80
3. Boston - 75
4. Washington DC - 70
5. Philadelphia - 67
6. Chicago - 65
7. Seattle - 57
8. Baltimore - 57
9. Los Angeles - 50
10. Portland - 50


Bike Score

1. Portland - 70
2. San Francisco - 70
3. Denver - 70
4. Philadelphia - 68
5. Boston - 67
6. Washington DC - 65
7. Seattle - 64
8. Tuscon - 64
9. New York City - 62
10. Chicago - 62

https://www.walkscore.com/cities-and-neighborhoods/
This great and all, BUT how about the actual top 10?

Walk Score:
1. New York City - 88
2. Jersey City - 84
3. San Francisco - 84
4. Boston - 80
5. Newark
6. Philadelphia - 77
7. Miami - 76
8. Chicago - 75
9. Washington DC - 74
10. Seattle - 71

Transit Score
1. New York City - 81
2. San Francisco - 80
3. Boston - 75
4. Washington DC - 70
5. Philadelphia - 67
6. Chicago - 65
7. Minneapolis - 59
8. Miami - 58
9. Seattle - 57
10. Baltimore - 57

Bike Score
1. Minneapolis - 79
2. Portland - 70
3. San Francisco - 70
4. Arlington - 70
5. Denver - 70
6. Philadelphia - 68
7. Sacramento - 68
8. Boston - 68
9. Madison - 67
10. Irvine - 67
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Augusta GA
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Here's the thing. The walk score only takes into account how many businesses and other convienences are close by, not whether there are sidewalks or walkable streets to get to them. So it's kind of all relative.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'd personally assign a value to each of the following: non-auto commuting share, car ownership and median household income. It would be something like a 40/40/20 split among the three.

Zip Code 11205 (Fort Greene/Clinton Hill, NY)

Transit share - 61.4%
Walk commuters - 12.4%
Bike commuters - 6.1%
SOV commuters - 10.8%
No vehicle - 67.9%
Median HHI - $44,688

Zip Code 19147 (Bella Vista, Philadelphia)

Transit share - 24.5%
Walk commuters - 19.4%
Bike commuters - 11.2%
SOV commuters - 31.2%
No vehicle - 35.8%
Median HHI - $60,400

Zip Code 20009 (Dupont Circle/Adams Morgan/Columbia Heights, DC)

Transit share - 42.1%
Walk commuters - 18.9%
Bike commuters - 7.2%
SOV commuters - 22.0%
No vehicle - 44.5%
Median HHI - $88,624

Zip Code 90004 (Koreatown, Los Angeles)

Transit share - 23.7%
Walk commuters - 2.0%
Bike commuters - 1.6%
SOV commuters - 57.1%
No vehicle - 19.3%
Median HHI - $37,976

Zip Code 90028 (Hollywood, CA)

Transit share - 18.1%
Walk commuters - 10.3%
Bike commuters - 3.8%
SOV commuters - 53.7%
No vehicle - 26.3%
Median HHI - $30,953

Zip Code 60614 (Lincoln Park, Chicago)

Transit share - 41.0%
Walk commuters - 6.5%
Bike commuters - 5.0%
SOV commuters - 35.9%
No vehicle - 30.2%

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Old 04-10-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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A few more. The Haight in SF may be the most "New York" like neighborhood in the country outside of NYC.

Zip Code 94102 (Haight-Ashbury/Tenderloin, San Francisco)

Transit share - 44.0%
Walk commuters - 21.5%
Bike commuters - 6.5%
SOV commuters - 17.0%
No vehicle - 72.4%
Median HHI - $72,848

Zip Code 02116 (Back Bay/Beacon Hill, Boston)

Transit share - 25.6%
Walk commuters - 31.9%
Bike commuters - 3.7%
SOV commuters - 28.4%
No vehicle - 44.3%
Median HHI - $87,653

Zip Code 90017 (Westlake/Downtown Historic Core, Los Angeles)

Transit share - 39.8%
Walk commuters - 7.7%
Bike commuters - 6.2%
SOV commuters - 35.0%
No vehicle - 43.2%
Median HHI - $23,030

Zip Code 90012 (Downtown/Chinatown, Los Angeles)

Transit share - 13.3%
Walk commuters - 10.3%
Bike commuters - 6.1%
SOV commuters - 56.8%
No vehicle - 29.4%
Median HHI - $28,879

Zip Code 19103 (West Center City, Philadelphia)

Transit share - 17.6%
Walk commuters - 43.5%
Bike commuters - 6.6%
SOV commuters - 23.1$
No vehicle - 53.8%
Median HHI - $63,709

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Old 04-10-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Sort of surprised by Back Bay. My friend had a car when he lived in Beacon Hill but it barely ran, he never used it, and it was a total hassle if it ever left its street parking spot.
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Old 04-10-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The City
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A few more. The Haight in SF may be the most "New York" like neighborhood in the country outside of NYC.

Zip Code 94102 (Haight-Ashbury/Tenderloin, San Francisco)

Transit share - 44.0%
Walk commuters - 21.5%
Bike commuters - 6.5%
SOV commuters - 17.0%
No vehicle - 72.4%
Median HHI - $72,848

Zip Code 02116 (Back Bay/Beacon Hill, Boston)

Transit share - 25.6%
Walk commuters - 31.9%
Bike commuters - 3.7%
SOV commuters - 28.4%
No vehicle - 44.3%
Median HHI - $87,653

Zip Code 90017 (Westlake/Downtown Historic Core, Los Angeles)

Transit share - 39.8%
Walk commuters - 7.7%
Bike commuters - 6.2%
SOV commuters - 35.0%
No vehicle - 43.2%
Median HHI - $23,030

Zip Code 90012 (Downtown/Chinatown, Los Angeles)

Transit share - 13.3%
Walk commuters - 10.3%
Bike commuters - 6.1%
SOV commuters - 56.8%
No vehicle - 29.4%
Median HHI - $28,879

Zip Code 19103 (West Center City, Philadelphia)

Transit share - 17.6%
Walk commuters - 43.5%
Bike commuters - 6.6%
SOV commuters - 23.1$
No vehicle - 53.8%
Median HHI - $63,709
for some areas the walk versu transit may come into to play, especially for smaller cores (none NYC)

Places like Back Bay or West CC with walk share of 32 and 44% as an example - no need for transit as are so close

even my home nabe of Bella Vista - slightly further yet a short walk has a combined walk/bike share of 30% its a 5 minute bike ride and 15 minute walk to the CBD as an example and nearly as fast as PT to the core - imagine mot car commuters are leaving the city from this area as drive time and parking would make walking or biking easier to the core in most cases from there
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Old 04-10-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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for some areas the walk versu transit may come into to play, especially for smaller cores (none NYC)

Places like Back Bay or West CC with walk share of 32 and 44% as an example - no need for transit as are so close
Yeah I didn't read that right when I posted, didn't notice how high the walk share was. Makes sense, most people I knew in BB would just walk downtown or to Boylston where most of the jobs were.
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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If you include Canadian cities, Top 5 for Walk Score:

1) NYC
2) San Fran
3) Boston
4) Vancouver
5) Philly

For Transit:

1) NYC
2) San Fran
3) Toronto
4) Montreal
5) Boston
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I wanted to see how Central Los Angeles would look compared to other cities. For the most part, I adhered to the boundaries in this L.A. Times article. However, I excluded Hollywood Hills and Hollywood Hills West because those are large areas that are sparsely populated. That removes 11.87 square miles from the 57.87 square mile L.A. Times definition (for a total land area of 46 sq. miles).

Population - 831,350 (18,072 ppsm)
Transit Riders - 77,447 (18.39%)
SOV commuters - 249,033 (59.15%)
Walk to work - 19,682 (4.67%)
Bike, cab, other - 11,380 (2.70%)
No vehicle households - 73,074 (21.20%)

I think we already knew this, but if Central L.A. were its own city, it would be the third densest large city in America, literally nipping at SF's heels.
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