What city is more dangerous - Los Angeles or Las Vegas? (state, rates)

[racing2015]

Originally Posted by StreetLegal

Vegas is a joke....

And LA is a "concrete jungle" that time and again disappoints.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-mos...331798812.html

Reddit Says LA is the Most Disappointing Place in the World - Tourism - Curbed LA

I did 17 years in that town - talk about world class - Vegas is a "bucket-list" type city. LA? Not so much.

Here's the latest visitor numbers I could pull up:

VISITORS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA — 26% of all visitors.
OTHER U.S. DOMESTIC VISITORS — 54% of all visitors.
VISITORS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES — 20% of all visitors.
http://www.lvcva.com/includes/conten...SoCal-Intl.pdf

I doubt 26% of Vegas residents visit LA annually.

[MordinSolus]

A moronic Yahoo article and a bunch of teenagers on Reddit? Really?

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by racing2015

And LA is a "concrete jungle" that time and again disappoints.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-mos...331798812.html

Reddit Says LA is the Most Disappointing Place in the World - Tourism - Curbed LA

I did 17 years in that town - talk about world class - Vegas is a "bucket-list" type city. LA? Not so much.

Here's the latest visitor numbers I could pull up:

VISITORS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA — 26% of all visitors.
OTHER U.S. DOMESTIC VISITORS — 54% of all visitors.
VISITORS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES — 20% of all visitors.
http://www.lvcva.com/includes/conten...SoCal-Intl.pdf

I doubt 26% of Vegas residents visit LA annually.

And neither do 26 percent of So.Calif. residents visit Vegas annually....you are misinterpreting the stats you are quoting.

Of course, a huge state next door is going to account for a large share of Nevada's visitors. That doesn't tell me much at about the place at all expect the relative population sizes of each market.

Take a look at the entire globe and ask which US cities attract the most foreign visitors:
- Vegas is tied with Mickey Mouse/Orlando at No. 5. Los Angeles is number 2.

The Most Visited Cities in the United States by Foreign Travelers (2012) - Page 2 of 2 - Traveler's Digest

[racing2015]

An analysis of more recent 2013 stats from Hotels.com shows the exact opposite at Vegas No. 2 and LA No. 5. 20 Most Popular US Cities For International Travelers

For full disclosure, the 2013 stats separate LA and Hollywood (No. 20).

[MordinSolus]

So it's just another stupid article? Hollywood is IN Los Angeles.

[racing2015]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

So it's just another stupid article? Hollywood is IN Los Angeles.

The Hollywood LA neighborhood has 110,435 people (2010 census) with almost 700 hotels in the area according to Hotels.com - makes sense that their data would list it separately from other parts of Los Angeles.

Southern California and Los Angeles would benefit from more distinction between the two IMHO.

[CptnRn]

Why not just look it up? The crime rates along with most other demographic data are posted here on City-Data pages for every city. https://www.city-data.com/

Just scroll down the page to the crime rate listings.

Los Angeles https://www.city-data.com/city/Los-An...alifornia.html
Murder 7.8 per 100,000 people
Rape 24.3 per 100,000 people
Assaults 216.1 per 100,000 people

Las Vegas https://www.city-data.com/city/Las-Vegas-Nevada.html
Murder 5.1 per 100,000 people
Rape 40.3 per 100,000 people
Assaults 480.1 per 100,000 people

So you are more likely to get murdered in Los Angeles and more likely to get raped or assaulted in Las Vegas.

Since I consider being murdered much more serious than being raped or assaulted, for me that makes Los Angeles more dangerous.

[Iaskwhy]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

Vegas has the same problem that San Francisco has where you can be walking down a very nice street with nice scenery and no hint of crime but turn the corner and you're in the ghetto. It's pocked all over with areas of grime and sleaze, mixing right into safe, picturesque areas.

Uh what?? Where are all these ghettos you speak of in San Francisco? Unless you take a wrong turn and end up crossing the Bay Bridge into Oakland or somehow end up in HP/Bayview, I don't know of anyplaces I would call "ghetto". The Tenderloin isn't nice but I wouldn't consider it ghetto.

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by CptnRn

Why not just look it up? The crime rates along with most other demographic data are posted here on City-Data pages for every city. https://www.city-data.com/

Just scroll down the page to the crime rate listings.

Los Angeles https://www.city-data.com/city/Los-An...alifornia.html
Murder 7.8 per 100,000 people
Rape 24.3 per 100,000 people
Assaults 216.1 per 100,000 people

Las Vegas https://www.city-data.com/city/Las-Vegas-Nevada.html
Murder 5.1 per 100,000 people
Rape 40.3 per 100,000 people
Assaults 480.1 per 100,000 people

So you are more likely to get murdered in Los Angeles and more likely to get raped or assaulted in Las Vegas.

Since I consider being murdered much more serious than being raped or assaulted, for me that makes Los Angeles more dangerous.

City-Data's numbers lag a few years behind. The homicide rate for LA has decreased the last few years so the homicide rate is even lower now.

Either way a small difference will not make me move to Las Vegas. I am old enough to remember when LA led the nation in murders. In 1980, the homicide rate in Los Angeles was over 30 per 100,000 people. Scary territory compared to today's numbers. Still would not make me move to Las Vegas...

[wall st kid]

LA has safer cities than Vegas but some less safe cities. Crime everywhere, i wouldn't say either city is "dangerous" per se as long as you're living in the 'best part" of those cities.

If you live on the strip in a condo, that's probably the safest area to be, lots of surveillance and whatnut.