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The Distrito Federal reported 4,308 homicides. 3,731 victims were men, 576 were women. The jurisdictions with the highest murder rates were Iztapalapa, with 1,013; Gustavo A. Madero, with 681, and Cuauhtemoc, with 398.
Those numbers are from 2012 and the population estimates I'm about to use are from 2010. So it's not perfect but close enough.
4,308 homicides out of a population of 8,851,080 people yields a per capita murder rate of 48.67 per 100,000 residents. I won't round up to 49.
So, that's 48 murders per 100,000 residents.
That is slightly higher than Detroit, according to the FBI:
In 2013, the Michigan city recorded 316 murders (which includes non-negligent manslaughter), or 45 per 100,000 people. That's 10 times the national average and the highest of all large U.S. cities. Detroit also notched 14,500 violent crimes, or 2,070 per 100,000 people.
I understand these numbers can fluctuate year-to-year and it's entirely possible that Mexico City's murder rate has dipped below 48 per 100,000. But, my point still stands. I compared D.F. - one of the safer regions of Mexico, btw - to the absolute deadliest city in the United States. And D.F., so far as murder is concerned, is even more dangerous.
Incorrect.
In fact, impossible. If Mexico City had over 4,000 murders a year, that would mean that it is even more murderous than quasi-warzones like the Islamic State Territory of the Levant or the true murder capital of Earth -- Caracas, Venezuela (the most dangerous city on the planet). Neither by total murder nor per capita murders would Mexico City be as dangerous as your article makes it out to be.
Think about what your article is saying for a moment and how absolutely preposterous it is to believe a statistic that outrageous.
Like others have mentioned, Mexico City's murder rate has been in serious decline for well over a decade now, each year the city is far better than it used to be the year before. Over 4,000 murders would make it one of the top 5 most dangerous cities on planet Earth (and among the top 25 most in all of human history by sheer numbers) which it patently is just not.
Other places in Mexico, particularly in the Borderland region are incredibly dangerous though but they are not reflective of the crime/murder rate in Mexico City, not one bit.
In fact, impossible. If Mexico City had over 4,000 murders a year, that would mean that it is even more murderous than quasi-warzones like the Islamic State Territory of the Levant or the true murder capital of Earth -- Caracas, Venezuela (the most dangerous city on the planet). Neither by total murder nor per capita murders would Mexico City be as dangerous as your article makes it out to be.
Think about what your article is saying for a moment and how absolutely preposterous it is to believe a statistic that outrageous.
Like others have mentioned, Mexico City's murder rate has been in serious decline for well over a decade now, each year the city is far better than it used to be the year before. Over 4,000 murders would make it one of the top 5 most dangerous cities on planet Earth (and among the top 25 most in all of human history by sheer numbers) which it patently is just not.
Other places in Mexico, particularly in the Borderland region are incredibly dangerous though but they are not reflective of the crime/murder rate in Mexico City, not one bit.
I linked an article with those statistics. That article even went so far as to break down the numbers by gender and neighborhood. Would you please post your opposing statistics?
Also, 48 per 100,000 would not make it among the most dangerous cities in the world. As I also posted, Detroit, here in the US, has numbers like that. As does New Orleans.
I linked an article with those statistics. That article even went so far as to break down the numbers by gender and neighborhood. Would you please post your opposing statistics?
Yeah, you must have not seen the link in my post or have bothered clicking it because you wouldn't be asking if you had.
Right here, all updated numbers on the World's top 50 most dangerous cities by MURDER/HOMICIDE RATE. By the way, the article came out this year in 2015.
Got anything current you want to use to make your case?
Right here, all updated numbers on the World's top 50 most dangerous cities by MURDER/HOMICIDE RATE. By the way, the article came out this year in 2015.
Got anything current you want to use to make your case?
I am asking you to post the number of murders in Mexico City each year. Please.
Not the supposed rate either. The raw numbers. We can calculate the rate ourselves. Please post a link showing how many homicides there were in the D.F. last year.
The FBI reports the murder rate of New Orleans is declining, but it is nearly 4 times higher than all of Mexico and over 5 times higher than Mexico City. New Orleans is still an amazing place to visit and the Media is right to champion this inspirational city. But Mexico is at least as remarkable and there is a clear difference in how each of these storied destinations is portrayed in contemporary news.
This is not 2014's numbers/rates but the year before that and they got their information from the FBI for both countries.
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Not the supposed rate either. The raw numbers. We can calculate the rate ourselves. Please post a link showing how many homicides there were in the D.F. last year.
Find one, I guess. Its on you to find it.
Don't post the questionable link with over 4,000 murders, I don't know what sort of idiot would even buy that. It would mean Mexico City is a more murderous place than the likes of Caracas and the territory the Islamic State holds. Believable? Yeah, no. Not at all.
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This is not 2014's numbers/rates but the year before that and they got their information from the FBI for both countries.
NOT the rate. Again, I am asking you to post the number of murders in Mexico City for any recent year. The raw number. Not the rate.
I've already explained how your list is wrong in an earlier post. Your list - from a Mexican tourism booster site called "How Safe Is Mexico dot com" - has calculated this rate of 9 per 100,000. They have done so by taking the metro area population of Mexico City and crunched them with the number of homicides within just the city proper.
Do this, please. Fill in the blank:
Last year, Mexico City had __________ murders. Not per capita.
Don't post the questionable link with over 4,000 murders, I don't know what sort of idiot would even buy that. It would mean Mexico City is a more murderous place than the likes of Caracas and the territory the Islamic State holds. Believable? Yeah, no. Not at all.
Stop. Listen. You are confusing the number of murders with the murder rate. 4000 murders in a city with a population of over 8 million people does not put Mexico City ANYWHERE CLOSE to being the most dangerous place on Earth.
Caracas has a homicide rate of over 80 per 100,000.
NOT the rate. Again, I am asking you to post the number of murders in Mexico City for any recent year. The raw number. Not the rate.
I've already explained how your list is wrong in an earlier post. Your list - from a Mexican tourism booster site called "How Safe Is Mexico dot com" - has calculated this rate of 9 per 100,000. They have done so by taking the metro area population of Mexico City and crunched them with the number of homicides within just the city proper.
Do this, please. Fill in the blank:
Last year, Mexico City had __________ murders. Not per capita.
It gives you both the murder total and the murder rate as reported by the Mexican government. It also does a bonus and compares both the totals and rates to a foreign country with similar statistics.
Mexico City is the one that says "Distrito Federal" with 786 total murders and a murder rate of 8.88/100,000. It's surrounding suburbs are in a state grey colored one that says "Mexico" and is the furthest south "grey area." The murder total of that area is 1,416 (not Mexico City itself but its suburbs) and for a murder rate of 9.33/100,000. If the entire page comes in as Spanish to you, then please click the top right tools tab and press "translate" and it will bring everything into English.
Also, you edited your post to add in "please post total murders" which came after I had already quoted you.
No way on Earth that place is having 4,000 murders a year like that crackpot link you posted earlier. That would give it a rate of like 50-55/100,000 and would make it one of the most dangerous cities on planet Earth's entire history (for its size especially) and that is simply not the case. At all. I mean really, with a murder total and rate like that, the place would be competing with super-dangerous Caracas or warzone Islamic State of the Levant, think about it, not possible.
Stop. Listen. You are confusing the number of murders with the murder rate. 4000 murders in a city with a population of over 8 million people does not put Mexico City ANYWHERE CLOSE to being the most dangerous place on Earth.
Caracas has a homicide rate of over 80 per 100,000.
Nah, I didn't confuse anything.
Having over 4,000 murders would mean Mexico City's murder rate is like 50-55/100,000 and that for a city with a population of 8.5 million and metropolitan area in excess of 20 million would mean it is one of the most dangerous places in the entire planet for its weight class and one of the most dangerous on the planet and its entire history by total murder numbers. Not happening.
Which it is not since it doesn't have 4,000 murders a year, it has over 700. Since its murder rate is not 50-55/100,000 a year, it is 8.88/100,000 and its suburbs in the state of "Mexico" have a murder total of 1,416 and a rate of 9.33/100,000.
Even if you combined Mexico City (Distrito Federal) with its suburbs in the state of Mexico to its north, that is 2,000 murder a year, half the number your link reported (which was wrong).
By the way, you seriously underestimate Caracas, Venezuela -- it has a murder rate that currently tops 100/100,000.
It gives you both the murder total and the murder rate as reported by the Mexican government. It also does a bonus and compares both the totals and rates to a foreign country with similar statistics.
Mexico City is the grey colored one that says "Mexico." If the entire page comes in as Spanish to you, then please click the top right tools tab and press "translate" and it will bring everything into English.
Also, you edited your post to add in "please post total murders" which came after I had already quoted you.
To answer your question, Mexico City's total murder count was 1,416 for a murder rate of 9.33/100,000. No way on Earth that place is having 4,000 murders a year like that crackpot link you posted earlier. That would give it a rate of like 50-55/100,000 and would make it one of the most dangerous cities on planet Earth's entire history (for its size especially) and that is simply not the case. At all. I mean really, with a murder total and rate like that, the place would be competing with super-dangerous Caracas or warzone Islamic State of the Levant, think about it, not possible.
If this number of 1,416 is right, I stand corrected. My apologies.
But a rate of 48 per 100,000 does not put Mexico City anywhere close to the most dangerous city on Earth.
And according to your map, the state of Guerrero which borders Mexico City, has murder rate of 62 per 100,000.
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