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The Distrito Federal reported 4,308 homicides. 3,731 victims were men, 576 were women. The jurisdictions with the highest murder rates were Iztapalapa, with 1,013; Gustavo A. Madero, with 681, and Cuauhtemoc, with 398.
Those numbers are from 2012 and the population estimates I'm about to use are from 2010. So it's not perfect but close enough.
4,308 homicides out of a population of 8,851,080 people yields a per capita murder rate of 48.67 per 100,000 residents. I won't round up to 49.
So, that's 48 murders per 100,000 residents.
That is slightly higher than Detroit, according to the FBI:
In 2013, the Michigan city recorded 316 murders (which includes non-negligent manslaughter), or 45 per 100,000 people. That's 10 times the national average and the highest of all large U.S. cities. Detroit also notched 14,500 violent crimes, or 2,070 per 100,000 people.
I understand these numbers can fluctuate year-to-year and it's entirely possible that Mexico City's murder rate has dipped below 48 per 100,000. But, my point still stands. I compared D.F. - one of the safer regions of Mexico, btw - to the absolute deadliest city in the United States. And D.F., so far as murder is concerned, is even more dangerous.
The numbers are from a blog without citations. Here's a bunch of articles/pages contradicting this information. Some with, some without citations, so take them however you want.
Opinion: The Deadliest Global City | NBC Chicago This shows a murder rate of just 9 per 100,000.
Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not ok This site shows crime falling significantly since 2011-2012. http://www.consejociudadanodf.org.mx...NDE01_2013.pdf
This report (in Spanish, sorry, but has graphs) show generally falling crime rates through 2013. Comparing the first half of 2010 and 2013, "high impact crimes" were down over 33%. Car theft was down 35%, subway robberies down 13% while other public transit robbery was down 35%, murder down 2% (it was pretty steady, but the totals are nowhere near 4,308), kidnappings down 18% (only 31 in the first half of 2013, so this is not exactly thousands of people), bank robberies down 34%, taxi robberies were down 75%, assault down 48%, etc.
There were 464 reported murders in Mexico City in 2012, not 4,308. As you say, the 2010 population is off, but not significantly from 2012. If we use the 2010 population with that total, you get a murder rate of just 5.24 per 100,000. I'm not sure where the 4,308 came from. Perhaps it was including the entire metro or surrounding states? The State of Mexico, just to the north of the DF, is significantly more dangerous, so perhaps that's where most of that total came from, but still seems rather high.
I don't particularly like Atlanta, but it should probably be ranked above Mexico City. Mexico City is poor, polluted, ugly, dangerous, horrific traffic, and practically worst weather in Mexico (rainy and surprisingly cold due to elevation). It's a pretty bad place to live unless you're fabulously rich.
Really the only thing I agree with you on is the great street food. I don't find the natural scenery to be "gorgeous" the architecture to be "spectacular" (this one is really odd, the biggest boom period in DF, by far, was the 1970's, and the architecture from that era is atrocious), and it isn't a very good museum city, at all. There is basically one world-class museum, the anthropology museum. There are probably 10 cities in Italy alone with better museums. Florence is a museum city not DF.
You either haven't been there in a long time or are just making assumptions based on stereotypes you've heard. It's not without its problems, but you're far exaggerating the issues.
It has poor areas because it's in Mexico, a much poorer country, but most tourists/visitors don't spend time in those areas, anyway. Why is poor automatically bad in the first place?
If by polluted you mean the air, I hardly even notice that anymore since it continues to get better. It's definitely not a constant problem and there are only a few days a year where it's still relatively bad (still nothing like it used to be).
Ugly is so subjective. Parts of it could certainly be described that way, and parts could be described as stunning... and there is a lot of in-between.
Dangerous in comparison to what? According to actual numbers, it's very safe.
Traffic I'll give you. But I don't drive and wouldn't drive, so this is not a problem. 80% of the population doesn't even own a car.
And the fact that you think it has terrible weather has to be a joke and indicates you may never have been there. Highs are almost always in the 70s, lows in the 50s and 60s. Extremely comfortable year-round.
I'm not rich.
It has tons of architecture from other eras than the 1970s, come on.
It has more museums per capita than just about any other city, and on some measurements, the highest. "World-class" is not some official designation. There are tons of wonderful museums. Even if you had visited, it's clear you didn't bother to experience very much and I suspect that you were very biased against it from the start.
The 2014 stats suggest that the murder rate in Mexico City is less than half what the spurious research claims above. It is about the same as Philadelphia's.
Only American provincialism (a combination of racism and ignorance) could claim that Atlanta (a perfectly fine city on its own terms) is in the same league as Mexico City.
People vote with their feet. Mexico City has BY FAR the largest expat U.S. community in the world. Some 600,000 Americans choose to live in Mexico City. London with just under 200,000 is a very distant second.
While I have never lived in either place, I have spent some time in both Atlanta and Mexico City, and in terms of vibrancy, urbanity, food, architecture, museums, outdoor recreation, nightlife, festivals, public transportation, amenities, any of the civic metrics that I find meaningful, compared to Mexico City, Atlanta is a one horse town!
That is not a slam on Atlanta. There is no other city in North America besides Mexico City that has been a global center of power, commerce, arts and culture for 800 years. NYC is the only city that is decidedly better than D.F. in North America.
While the Canadian bias in the original list is obvious, young Canadians clearly have a better sense of top twenty world cities than some posters on this thread. Atlanta is definitely a top 20 U.S. city, maybe even a top ten, but by nearly every objective metric: population, GDP and many more subjective ones - history, culture, environment, Mexico City is easily one of the twenty greatest cities in the world. Atlanta is not in the same league!
There is so much anti-Mexican bias in the US that it's no surprise some people can't handle the thought that a US city may not be a popular as a Mexican one. The ridiculous questions I get from Americans about me living in Mexico is near constant.
So...? Some 5 million Americans choose to live in Atlanta. And some 600,000 Hispanics (mostly Mexican) choose to live in Atlanta alone. Think about that. Atlanta has fewer Mexicans than LA, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, San Diego, etc. And yet, it has nearly as many Mexican transplants as Mexico City has American transplants. Point of fact, Mexico is the only democracy on Earth that people flee from. Mexico is the only democracy on planet Earth where human beings risk life and limb on a daily basis to get out of.
Atlanta has almost as many Mexican immigrants as Mexico City has American immigrants, despite the following:
1.) Mexico City is 5x larger than Atlanta
2.) The US is almost 3x larger than Mexico
..........
Finally, here is a list of places I'd rather live the rest of my life in than Mexico City:
1.) Everywhere.
You seem unreasonably threatened by a city you claim no one likes and is terrible.
The numbers are from a blog without citations. Here's a bunch of articles/pages contradicting this information. Some with, some without citations, so take them however you want.
Opinion: The Deadliest Global City | NBC Chicago This shows a murder rate of just 9 per 100,000.
Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not ok This site shows crime falling significantly since 2011-2012. http://www.consejociudadanodf.org.mx...NDE01_2013.pdf
This report (in Spanish, sorry, but has graphs) show generally falling crime rates through 2013. Comparing the first half of 2010 and 2013, "high impact crimes" were down over 33%. Car theft was down 35%, subway robberies down 13% while other public transit robbery was down 35%, murder down 2% (it was pretty steady, but the totals are nowhere near 4,308), kidnappings down 18% (only 31 in the first half of 2013, so this is not exactly thousands of people), bank robberies down 34%, taxi robberies were down 75%, assault down 48%, etc.
There were 464 reported murders in Mexico City in 2012, not 4,308. As you say, the 2010 population is off, but not significantly from 2012. If we use the 2010 population with that total, you get a murder rate of just 5.24 per 100,000. I'm not sure where the 4,308 came from. Perhaps it was including the entire metro or surrounding states? The State of Mexico, just to the north of the DF, is significantly more dangerous, so perhaps that's where most of that total came from, but still seems rather high.
Yes we should believe in the competency of a Mexican government agency to report accurate and honest crime reports when corruption runs rampant in Mexican politics.
Dude. 20 plus million people DO NOT CHOOSE TO LIVE in Mexico City. By this reasoning, Karachi Pakistan is even MORE desirable because they have even more people. Fact is, Catholicism and bad luck account for the vast majority of people who live in Mexico City.
Please attempt, by written explanation, to reconcile my earlier point which is: 600,000 Americans live in Mexico City, a metropolis of over 20 million people WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, 600,000 Mexicans live in Atlanta, a metropolis of only 6 million people and not even among the top 10 most popular cities in the US for Mexican immigrants.
How do you explain that?
Well, according to the US Census, in 2013 there were only 32,367 people living in the city of Atlanta who were born outside the US, many of them not Mexican. Are you referring to the metro area? In 2013, there were 719,428 foreign-born residents in the metro, but again, many were not Mexican, certainly not 600,000 of them. In fact, in 2012, the US census lists 336,013 Mexicans living in the entire metro area, so of course the actual number in the city would be very low. You seem to pull numbers out of thin air.
The criteria for this survey are garbage. Employment isn't solely associated with youthfulness. There is no way Detroit or Dallas are ahead of Buenos Aires. I have been to all three, and Buenos Aires compared to this cities is like comparing Chicago to Des Moines and Newark (no offense to Des Moines, and well, Newark...um).
Are you seriously saying Mexico City ranks just after NYC?When has Mexico City been an important global center of commerce or leader in anything worldwide?
Mexico City is no leader in commerce or anything else.Its a cool city Im sure but lets just be realistic.As big as it is ,its GDP is o where near Atlanta.
No its no provincialism.Europeans , and Asians are no more flocking to Mexico City than Atlanta.However I do think you underestimate Atlanta.
Atlanta ranks 14th in the world in number of International Headquarters.Just after Brussels.Mexico City ranks 57th.
Atlanta has one of the largest university student populations in the U.S.
Amenities for young people must be affordable.Mexico City is not a cheap city compared to Atlanta.
Atlanta's GDP is much lower than Mexico City's, by at least 100 billion. This isn't hard to look up.
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