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Definitely Denver. It's investing a lot more in public amenities and spaces, such as Union Station, light rail, and its various parks. Phoenix's growth is driven entirely by short-sighted private investment, whose negative externalities (such as excessive sprawl or heavy water usage in a desert) will come back to bite them in the butt. Either Phoenix is going to have to completely change the way it is growing, or it will collapse in on itself (economically and demographically speaking).
Definitely Denver. It's investing a lot more in public amenities and spaces, such as Union Station, light rail, and its various parks. Phoenix's growth is driven entirely by short-sighted private investment, whose negative externalities (such as excessive sprawl or heavy water usage in a desert) will come back to bite them in the butt. Either Phoenix is going to have to completely change the way it is growing, or it will collapse in on itself (economically and demographically speaking).
PHX is changing. Have you ever been here? Lots of urban renewal in both downtown and uptown PHX, and several high rises going in downtown as well as Tempe. The area sprawls, no doubt, but so does every major city. And PHX has done a great job of conserving water. Did you know that today, even with its massive population, PHX consumes the same amount of water as it did in the 1950s? Hows that for you? The rest of the country should use US as a model for water conservation.
Definitely Denver. It's investing a lot more in public amenities and spaces, such as Union Station, light rail, and its various parks. Phoenix's growth is driven entirely by short-sighted private investment, whose negative externalities (such as excessive sprawl or heavy water usage in a desert) will come back to bite them in the butt. Either Phoenix is going to have to completely change the way it is growing, or it will collapse in on itself (economically and demographically speaking).
^^^this. you're very kind in not posting the ugly stuff about Phoenix.
PHX is changing. Have you ever been here? Lots of urban renewal in both downtown and uptown PHX, and several high rises going in downtown as well as Tempe. The area sprawls, no doubt, but so does every major city. And PHX has done a great job of conserving water. Did you know that today, even with its massive population, PHX consumes the same amount of water as it did in the 1950s? Hows that for you? The rest of the country should use US as a model for water conservation.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
That doesn't mean that your water supply isn't running out. Props to you guys on cutting down consumption, and I do love that Phoenix is developing its downtown more. But the fact remains that there's a lot of work to be done to make Phoenix something that is permanently sustainable in its location, and with increasingly dramatic weather extremes caused by climate change that will undoubtedly become more difficult.
That doesn't mean that your water supply isn't running out. Props to you guys on cutting down consumption, and I do love that Phoenix is developing its downtown more. But the fact remains that there's a lot of work to be done to make Phoenix something that is permanently sustainable in its location, and with increasingly dramatic weather extremes caused by climate change that will undoubtedly become more difficult.
Our water supply isnt stellar, but I wouldnt say its running out per se. AZ does a SUPERB job on storing reserves, and dictating who gets what and when. If the drought continues, AZ's water supply looks the best out of all the SW cities, by a long shot.
If Phoenix builds/ begins to build a a "central" Downtown area that draws people to gather together like Denver/ Seattle.... I can imagine it becoming a VERY desirable city. The weather is great... it's near one of the biggest Universities in the country.... Phoenix has a TON of potential.. it's just not doing much with it-- lol :P
There is a hell of a lot more going on NOW (building/infill) in downtown and central Phoenix (and Tempe) than I think I have ever witnessed in Phoenix. Of course this takes time, but trending in the right direction.
Our water supply isnt stellar, but I wouldnt say its running out per se. AZ does a SUPERB job on storing reserves, and dictating who gets what and when. If the drought continues, AZ's water supply looks the best out of all the SW cities, by a long shot.
This is certainly true and I wish more people would actually do research on the water conservation efforts before just posting ridiculous assumptions.
There is a hell of a lot more going on NOW (building/infill) in downtown and central Phoenix (and Tempe) than I think I have ever witnessed in Phoenix. Of course this takes time, but trending in the right direction.
VERY TRUE... still has some catching up to do. in relation to other big-metros.
Our water supply isnt stellar, but I wouldnt say its running out per se. AZ does a SUPERB job on storing reserves, and dictating who gets what and when. If the drought continues, AZ's water supply looks the best out of all the SW cities, by a long shot.
Yes, Arizona I think is doing a superb job given the situation. Water supply in the Southwest is like the big leagues, where a state like Florida is the kiddie leagues. Those in the kiddie leagues have no idea what it's like in the big leagues
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VERY TRUE... still has some catching up to do. in relation to other big-metros.
