NYC, LA, Chicago to become NYC, SF, Houston? (ranking, market, expensive)
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Sorry, but no. You're referencing annual estimates, not Census counts. Took me about 2 seconds to disprove your claims.
And, no offense, but that might have been the most pathetic, blatantly homerist post on this thread. Your own posted estimates showed that Houston and LA have about the same growth, well within margin of error, so you confirm my whole point. Even homers misusing data and not understanding the Census can't come up with a year where LA isn't the growth leader.
Your original statement:
The LA CSA has the largest numeric population growth in the U.S., year after year, for basically the past 50 years.
If not using annual estimates from the census site, please direct me to where you find year by year numeric population growth numbers that are not estimates.
Homerist post? I'm not from Houston. I've only been there a few times actually.
Where did you see margin of error? I've not seen that listed on the census site. It sounds like you are confusing it with a Gallup Poll.
You made the statement so show us proof. Provide a link that Los Angeles CSA has led numeric growth for the past 50 years. Or admit you are wrong.
The only thing that's scary is how much of your own kool-aid you've drank, bruh.
Yawns.
Of course you can't, it's a power thing, you wouldnt understand.
Like I said, you can pepper us with all the Kaitlyn Jenners you wish and produce 10 more Fasts and Furious, etc.
That's really rather superficial vs the real power that can send entire nations into turmoil that exists up north. We've seen it happen already during the Arab Spring.
You guys love to downplay tech but Wall Street certainly doesnt. lol. The 2 most valuable companies in the world are Apple and Google( which owns Android and Youtube)-those 2 by themselves are more valuable than every LA based company COMBINED.
And u people think Kendrick Lamar is more impressive? Haha
Prestige:
San Francisco is already more prestigious than Los Angeles if we look at median home prices, median office rents, median incomes, educational attainment levels, high quality suburbs and school districts, a more upscale downtown. San Francisco has the 2nd largest concentration of Ivy League graduates, the most prestigious universities on the west coast,
Culturally:
San Francisco is at least just as culturally impactful as Los Angeles. People can point to Hollywood all they want, but no Hollywood entity is more used on a daily basis than Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. In fact, much of Hollywood is owned by New York parent companies-SFs media outlets arent controlled by out of towners-N-E-V-E-R. The Bay Area sets the trend far more than LA as far as politics, social movements, environmental awareness, hell, even food.
Economically:
The Bay Area is already the tech epicenter of the world, the premier financial center and banking center of the west, the largest concentration of F500 HQs, probably the most watched local economy in the nation outside of New York as the Bay Area is the only place that has trillions of dollars of market capitalization after New York. Nowhere else besides NY and SF achieve and surpass $1T in market cap.
So while LA is larger, that clearly has no bearing on being more prestigious or more culturally and economically relevant in 2015 as the Bay Area takes it to the mat in all 3 categories.
I dont see how much longer the flimsy arguments you guys put out to stave off the advancing Bay Area juggernaut will hold water.
There may be more supply of Houses in the Houston market right now but it is still "not" a buyers market yet...
HOUSTON — (July 15, 2015) — The Houston real estate market’s see-saw ride continued following May’s sales dip, with June sales volume up 4.1 percent and home prices setting new record highs. Only homes priced below $150,000 experienced a sales decline.
According to the latest monthly report prepared by the Houston Association of Realtors (HAR), June single-family home sales totaled 7,935 units—the highest one-month volume ever— compared to 7,621 a year earlier. The time it took to sell the average home reached a record low of 43 days.
Of course you can't, it's a power thing, you wouldnt understand.
Like I said, you can pepper us with all the Kaitlyn Jenners you wish and produce 10 more Fasts and Furious, etc.
That's really rather superficial vs the real power that can send entire nations into turmoil that exists up north. We've seen it happen already during the Arab Spring.
You guys love to downplay tech but Wall Street certainly doesnt. lol. The 2 most valuable companies in the world are Apple and Google( which owns Android and Youtube)-those 2 by themselves are more valuable than every LA based company COMBINED.
And u people think Kendrick Lamar is more impressive? Haha
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or young adult...am I right? Your conception that "SF = Technology" and "LA = entertainment" is trite, uninformed, and a massive oversimplification.
In your oversimplified Los Angeles, 100% of the region's economic output is the entertainment industry. In reality, its 9%. That's it. The city has a massively diverse economy that yes-- includes the entertainment sector, but also includes logistics and trade, biotech, healthcare, and technology. The fact is, the entertainment industry could simply cease to exist, and Los Angeles would still be an economic juggernaut.
Here's some stats for you:
- LA County is the largest manufacturing center in the U.S., with more manufacturing jobs than the state of Michigan.
- About 40% of all containerized goods entering the U.S. pass through L.A., the largest seaport in the Western Hemisphere.
- Downtown LA's fashion district is quite literally the only large remaining textile manufacturing center in the US. Either your clothing is getting manufactured here, or its getting manufactured overseas in Asia. The Fashion District effectively acts as an incubator for many fashion startups, who are able to use the factories here to prototype their lines and manufacture small to medium size quantities, and then later move to offshoring their supply chain when they're ready to scale up.
- Los Angeles' aerospace industry has shrank, but is still the largest of any metro in the US. SpaceX is headquartered here. Hughes is here. Boeing, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman all have major facilities here. NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL) is here. Every time you one of NASA's robotic probes or rovers fly by a moon or land on Mars, that's all a product of SoCal's aerospace industry, and is being controlled by a room full of people in Pasadena.
- LA is a world leader in design and architecture, with hundreds of small firms headquartered here as well as several of the big gorillas. Of the 5 top-grossing architecture/design firms in the country, 2 of them- AECOM and Jacobs- are located in LA. San Francisco has 1 in the top 5-- Gensler, who actually has a Downtown LA location now that employees nearly as many people as their San Francisco office. Interesting, eh?
- Los Angeles has a massive technology sector and startup community. I should know, I'm part of it. Is it as large as Silicon Valley's? Of course not, but LA isn't a one-trick pony either. Google, Facebook, Yahoo, and every other major Silicon Valley player has a satellite campus on the westside of LA in Santa Monica, Playa Vista, or Venice. Tech/fashion hybrids like NastyGal and TrunkClub are based here. Tech/health hybrids like Soylent are located here. And since you seem to like social media, lets talk about Snapchat. You've heard of Snapchat, right? You know, the LA Based social media app that was recently valued at over $19 billion? The one with 100 million active users per day and some of the highest engagement levels of any social media platform? Nah, don't sweat it if you've never heard of it. Its not based in San Francisco so its outside your bubble.
Even the entertainment industry you seem to have gotten wrong. You can try to minimize it to "Kendrick Lamar and Katylyn Jenner", and pretend that the only creative output of the city is pop music and mainstream movies, but that's simply untrue. The vast majority of US independent films are produced here. The vast majority of indie bands record their albums here. Over a third of the video game development studios (including the indie studios) are located here.
All that to say that you have a conception of Los Angeles that isn't quite based in reality. But that's boring.
What I find to be a much more interesting discussion is the trajectories these two cities are on in terms of residential growth. San Francisco has for some reason decided that development and residential growth is a bad thing, creating a massive housing shortage the highest cost of living in the nation. Los Angeles on the other hand, is building 100,000 new units by 2021. Drive down Figueroa Blvd in Downtown Los Angeles right now and you'll see over $10 billion in highrise development, mostly from Korean and Chinese developers that have opted to make Los Angeles their gateway into US development. The thing about having big companies-- technology or otherwise-- located in your city is that it has to be affordable for employees to live there. Have you asked yourselves why the big Silicon Valley companies have started building big campuses down here?
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On the other hand:
Fox is owned by 21st Century Fox-New York
CBS is headquartered in New York
NBC is owned by Comcast-Philadelphia
Universal is owned by Comcast-Philadelphia
Paramount is owned by Viacom-New York
Sony is Japanese
Disney, which owns ABC is the only major diversified media company actually based in Los Angeles. Thats a big deal no doubt, but its not enough to make LA the undisputed leader in tv, movies and music.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or young adult...am I right? Your conception that "SF = Technology" and "LA = entertainment" is trite, uninformed, and a massive oversimplification.
In your oversimplified Los Angeles, 100% of the region's economic output is the entertainment industry. In reality, its 9%. That's it. The city has a massively diverse economy that yes-- includes the entertainment sector, but also includes logistics and trade, biotech, healthcare, and technology. The fact is, the entertainment industry could simply cease to exist, and Los Angeles would still be an economic juggernaut.
Here's some stats for you:
- LA County is the largest manufacturing center in the U.S., with more manufacturing jobs than the state of Michigan.
- Downtown LA's fashion district is quite literally the only large remaining textile manufacturing center in the US. Either your clothing is getting manufactured here, or its getting manufactured overseas in Asia. The Fashion District effectively acts as an incubator for many fashion startups, who are able to use the factories here to prototype their lines and manufacture small to medium size quantities, and then later move to offshoring their supply chain when they're ready to scale up.
- Los Angeles' aerospace industry has shrank, but is still the largest of any metro in the US. SpaceX is headquartered here. Hughes is here. Boeing, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman all have major facilities here. NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL) is here. Every time you one of NASA's robotic probes or rovers fly by a moon or land on Mars, that's all a product of SoCal's aerospace industry, and is being controlled by a room full of people in Pasadena.
- LA is a world leader in design and architecture, with hundreds of small firms headquartered here as well as several of the big gorillas. Of the 5 top-grossing architecture/design firms in the country, 2 of them- AECOM and Jacobs- are located in LA. San Francisco has 1 in the top 5-- Gensler, who actually has a Downtown LA location now that employees nearly as many people as their San Francisco office. Interesting, eh?
- Los Angeles has a massive technology sector and startup community. I should know, I'm part of it. Is it as large as Silicon Valley's? Of course not, but LA isn't a one-trick pony either. Google, Facebook, Yahoo, and every other major Silicon Valley player has a satellite campus on the westside of LA in Santa Monica, Playa Vista, or Venice. And since you seem to like social media, lets talk about Snapchat. You've heard of Snapchat, right? You know, the LA Based social media app that was recently valued at over $19 billion? The one with 100 million active users per day and some of the highest engagement levels of any social media platform? Nah, don't sweat it if you've never heard of it. Its not based in San Francisco so its outside your bubble.
Please stop. You brag about regional offices of Bay Area companies?( newsflash: Google has offices everywhere. lmao)
19 billion? Thats cute. Facebook is worth 268 billion.
And do research more into how users are counted. lol.
Also, the Bay Area has a larger manufacturing GDP than Los Angeles.
Anyone else beginning to suspect that 18Montclair is actually a performance artist?
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