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Wow. Most downtowns across the country are getting better. Seems St. Louis is sliding back to the late 80s/early 90s. I think St. Louis is done. Low job growth, corporations leaving, high racial tension...it's a rustbelt cities x 2. At least Oakland has SF and SJ so eventually Oakland will gentrify as people will be priced out of SF and go to the next best urban alternative, though Oakland is not cheap either.
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Just nvm with you again, I don't even want to know.
Oh come on, people. St. Louis is a lot more similar to any other large city than you may realize-- like any city, there are bad neighborhoods and great neighborhoods. If you're not involved in risky/illegal activity, the chances of you being a victim of violent crime in St. Louis are very slim. Sounds like several of you are conflating "downtown" with the entire city of St. Louis. Downtown St. Louis is as safe as any major downtown in America (a little quieter than most, perhaps, but no more dangerous). If you haven't visited St. Louis lately, you'd be quite surprised-- many neighborhoods are booming with rehabs, new businesses and cranes rising across the city. It's pretty exciting to see this weathered old river city revitalizing little by little, block by block. This isn't some upstart faddish "cool" town of the minute-- St. Louis is a mature, established, if faded city that once ranked 4th in the country. It has been around for 251 years-- older than the United States-- and it's here to stay. It deserves respect, and at the very least, a visit with an open mind. If you can't appreciate an old bitchy red brick city with as much character as it has baggage, you don't belong on this forum.
Or a transplant probably. Most "locals" I've met on all my trips to California are pretty laid back and just view the state as home. It's the transplants who seem to possess a deep insecurity who use the new found location as a hollow substitute for their lack of any personal achievement in their shallow attempts to prove their own self-worth as if California was god's gift to the world and they are so much better than others by default because they live there...
Or a transplant probably. Most "locals" I've met on all my trips to California are pretty laid back and just view the state as home. It's the transplants who seem to possess a deep insecurity who use the new found location as a hollow substitute for their lack of any personal achievement in their shallow attempts to prove their own self-worth as if California was god's gift to the world and they are so much better than others by default because they live there...
Or a transplant probably. Most "locals" I've met on all my trips to California are pretty laid back and just view the state as home. It's the transplants who seem to possess a deep insecurity who use the new found location as a hollow substitute for their lack of any personal achievement in their shallow attempts to prove their own self-worth as if California was god's gift to the world and they are so much better than others by default because they live there...
4th generation CA native. California is god's gift the world. That is a given. I've traveled through the midwest enough to know it is an armpit.
4th generation CA native. California is god's gift the world. That is a given. I've traveled through the midwest enough to know it is an armpit.
Yeah,I see what you're saying. Looking at a map of the United States, it looks like some kind of animal.
The armpit would be where the Midwest is and Maine would be the head, Florida would be the arm or front leg, Texas would be the rear leg and that would make California the......
Yeah,I see what you're saying. Looking at a map of the United States, it looks like some kind of animal.
The armpit would be where the Midwest is and Maine would be the head, Florida would be the arm or front leg, Texas would be the rear leg and that would make California the......
The midwest is not the armpit...it's the heart, soul and core, where all the vital organs are and where the strength comes from. It is the muscled center that everything else relies on to thrive.
Alabama/Mississippi is the armpit.
And yes, California is the rump. And Oregon is the dank, dark butthole, where the rest of the country sends its most worthless leftovers to mix with the goop that never got cleaned off.
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