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View Poll Results: Is Washignton DC America's Real Second City
Washington DC is America's New Second City 21 15.00%
DC will surpass Chicago In Importance but not L.A 24 17.14%
DC will surpass L.A in Importance but not Chicago 2 1.43%
No Way! DC will not pass Neither LA or Chicago 93 66.43%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-21-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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If things go according to the plan, the plan being the Constitution, being reimplemented...DC is n for a whole lot of hurt. A multi-decade well-deserved recession....dare I say depression. But if that ideal were come to pass...no problem for DC area residents as they will find themselves in a country bursting with opportunity.
Lol the plan/ideal is not for the capital of the country to go through a recession. Your premise of a multi-decade recessions well beyond is laughable. DC is recession proof unlike LA and especially Chicago, no matter how much you people care to see the capital of your own nation to fail.

Virginia added 14,400 jobs in November 2015 - Washington Business Journal
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Old 12-21-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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The DC-Baltimore corridor -- is/will be a first start of a Megalopolis. Philly then will come in. NYC-Boston then a Whole.... Northeast Megalopolis. DC WITH Baltimore might claim 2nd largest. But still at the end of the day.... they are distinct individual days. But again..... the term MEGALOPOLIS can come in. DC's boom may continue or slow as cycles can come.
DC's rising residential prices can also slow a boom period.

LA -- was in a slower growth period that has ended especially for its core. Its core is again booming. As in the West coast sunbelt. That alone continues its desirability. Only a more major earthquake or major water issues will probably now slow LA.

Chicago -- has the current misfortune...... of being in the Midwest. As a Whole the slowest growing region of the nation. Having generally colder and snowier winters is what is our current periods issue. The sunbelt has/is drawing its residents slowing its growth. Though Chicago is in the Midwest and its key city. It could very much be a East coast city. Though Chicago city proper lost people last census. As its Southside primarily lost 181,000 poorer African-American. Some did go to the suburbs. The metro still grew a few hundred thousand. CURRENTLY.... the cities CORE is booming. Even International investors have discovered the city. Only NYC, LA and yes.... DC get more now. Chicago moved up from 8th place....

2015 Marks Record Year for Foreign Investment in Chicago Real Estate - Market Reports - Curbed Chicago

Chicago Named 2014 "Top Metro" for New and Expanding Companies

More developers are looking to build MORE Single-Homes and Townhouses in the city as the Apartment boom has been a bit overbuilt. Demand for new single family homes and condos has been high in the Chicagoland area as inventory remains low. In the last 12 months, developers have started or completed the construction of 6,143 new residences — specifically single family homes, townhouses and duplexes.

Chicago Area New Construction at Highest Level in Seven Years - Market Reports - Curbed Chicago

But the Middle-Class as in the nation is hurt by a rise in taxes in the city's pension debt issues. But investors seem to still be bullish on the city as investments continue from its core and gentrifying neighborhoods all around it. This new census is to show the losses ended. Though Black flight might be continuing and lower Middle-Class. But Young Urban Professionals continue to move in.

Chicago still has the MOST DIVERSIFIED ECONOMY in the Nation. No more then 14% employed in one industry.

Economy

Chicago's drawbacks continue to be its Midwest location and Winters. The states debt and cities doesn't help. But overall the city has been good to investors and Downtown is blooming the nations premier downtown after Manhattan. Hitting all the bells and whistles of what a American Downtown is expected to be. Chicago's shoreline on Lake Michigan of Beaches and Harbors even right downtown that impresses visitors impressed. it appears as a ocean setting.

Overall DC with Baltimore probably will have a metro that can surpass CHICAGOLAND. But they are still distinct cities. Therefore a Megalopolis begun. Chicago has Milwaukee where their suburbs do meet. But their cores are further apart.

So depends how you count the numbers too. Some aspects of what we view as a Major city and Downtown..... are not going to see Chicago's as less iconic. Other cities continue to build their cores and skyscrapers. But Chicago still is too and already has a fully vibrant one that keeps improving. LA is trying to make theirs as vibrant with its booming core. Even HOUSTON is in city proper looking to surpass Chicago proper in population. But won't anytime soon its Metro or City Core.

I applaud ALL our major cities bouncing back. Time will tell if global effects coastal cities or water shortages southwestern cities and hopefully no big earthquakes anywhere.
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Old 12-21-2015, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The Bay Area is growing slower than the LA metro, despite the tech boom.
Haha not at all.

Keep in mind, the LA Metro has 13 Million people and SF/ SJ is roughly half that.

2013-2014 GDP Growth
San Francisco/San Jose MSAs +$40.692 Billion
Los Angeles MSA +$32.944 Billion
Chicago MSA +$20.742 Billion
Washington/ Baltimore MSAs +$15.312 Billion
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Baltimore will be a mega city in the near future.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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The DC-Baltimore corridor -- is/will be a first start of a Megalopolis. Philly then will come in. NYC-Boston then a Whole.... Northeast Megalopolis. DC WITH Baltimore might claim 2nd largest. But still at the end of the day.... they are distinct individual days. But again..... the term MEGALOPOLIS can come in. DC's boom may continue or slow as cycles can come.
DC's rising residential prices can also slow a boom period.

LA -- was in a slower growth period that has ended especially for its core. Its core is again booming. As in the West coast sunbelt. That alone continues its desirability. Only a more major earthquake or major water issues will probably now slow LA.

Chicago -- has the current misfortune...... of being in the Midwest. As a Whole the slowest growing region of the nation. Having generally colder and snowier winters is what is our current periods issue. The sunbelt has/is drawing its residents slowing its growth. Though Chicago is in the Midwest and its key city. It could very much be a East coast city. Though Chicago city proper lost people last census. As its Southside primarily lost 181,000 poorer African-American. Some did go to the suburbs. The metro still grew a few hundred thousand. CURRENTLY.... the cities CORE is booming. Even International investors have discovered the city. Only NYC, LA and yes.... DC get more now. Chicago moved up from 8th place....

2015 Marks Record Year for Foreign Investment in Chicago Real Estate - Market Reports - Curbed Chicago

Chicago Named 2014 "Top Metro" for New and Expanding Companies

More developers are looking to build MORE Single-Homes and Townhouses in the city as the Apartment boom has been a bit overbuilt. Demand for new single family homes and condos has been high in the Chicagoland area as inventory remains low. In the last 12 months, developers have started or completed the construction of 6,143 new residences — specifically single family homes, townhouses and duplexes.

Chicago Area New Construction at Highest Level in Seven Years - Market Reports - Curbed Chicago

But the Middle-Class as in the nation is hurt by a rise in taxes in the city's pension debt issues. But investors seem to still be bullish on the city as investments continue from its core and gentrifying neighborhoods all around it. This new census is to show the losses ended. Though Black flight might be continuing and lower Middle-Class. But Young Urban Professionals continue to move in.

Chicago still has the MOST DIVERSIFIED ECONOMY in the Nation. No more then 14% employed in one industry.

Economy

Chicago's drawbacks continue to be its Midwest location and Winters. The states debt and cities doesn't help. But overall the city has been good to investors and Downtown is blooming the nations premier downtown after Manhattan. Hitting all the bells and whistles of what a American Downtown is expected to be. Chicago's shoreline on Lake Michigan of Beaches and Harbors even right downtown that impresses visitors impressed. it appears as a ocean setting.

Overall DC with Baltimore probably will have a metro that can surpass CHICAGOLAND. But they are still distinct cities. Therefore a Megalopolis begun. Chicago has Milwaukee where their suburbs do meet. But their cores are further apart.

So depends how you count the numbers too. Some aspects of what we view as a Major city and Downtown..... are not going to see Chicago's as less iconic. Other cities continue to build their cores and skyscrapers. But Chicago still is too and already has a fully vibrant one that keeps improving. LA is trying to make theirs as vibrant with its booming core. Even HOUSTON is in city proper looking to surpass Chicago proper in population. But won't anytime soon its Metro or City Core.

I applaud ALL our major cities bouncing back. Time will tell if global effects coastal cities or water shortages southwestern cities and hopefully no big earthquakes anywhere.
The East Coast megalopolis has been in existence for forty + years, its called BosWash, Boston - Washington, google it.
BosWash has now extended to the Southeastern Virginia region, the VA Beach/Newport News Metro area.
Going forward
the VA suburbs of DC have pretty much connected to the northern suburbs of Richmond. The southernmost county in the Richmond metro now touches the northernmost county in the VA Beach/Newport News metro.
The 95-64 corridor from DC to VA Beach is now connected with the BosWash complex. The connection goes away south of the VA Beach metro because the distance to Raleigh (next largest metro going south) is too great and breaks things up.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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Honestly I really don't think there is a "Second city anymore".

NYC is king, but cities like LA, Chicago, SF and DC, really pull their weight and I think that 2nd city status has been distributed amongst them. I will give a slight edge to LA for being the "Second City" but I really think Chicago, SF, and DC, are pretty equal on their pulls status within the US.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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Honestly I really don't think there is a "Second city anymore".

NYC is king, but cities like LA, Chicago, SF and DC, really pull their weight and I think that 2nd city status has been distributed amongst them. I will give a slight edge to LA for being the "Second City" but I really think Chicago, SF, and DC, are pretty equal on their pulls status within the US.
Those 3 are pretty equal but I'd give the edge to SF Bay Area purely for economic growth and output.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles,CA & Scottsdale, AZ
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Baltimore will be a mega city in the near future.
......?
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:59 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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The East Coast megalopolis has been in existence for forty + years, its called BosWash, Boston - Washington, google it.
BosWash has now extended to the Southeastern Virginia region, the VA Beach/Newport News Metro area.
Going forward
the VA suburbs of DC have pretty much connected to the northern suburbs of Richmond. The southernmost county in the Richmond metro now touches the northernmost county in the VA Beach/Newport News metro.
The 95-64 corridor from DC to VA Beach is now connected with the BosWash complex. The connection goes away south of the VA Beach metro because the distance to Raleigh (next largest metro going south) is too great and breaks things up.
They are NOT A TOTALLY BUILT COMPLETELY CONNECTED MEGALOPOLIS YET. New Jersey is NOT TOTALLY in such a state to say Philly NYC have connected? But Baltimore Washington have.

This Wikipedia definition..... says the TERM WAS PENNED IN THE 1960s.... starting in publications since the early 60s.... and seen as FULLY DEVELOPING in some publication..... by the year 2000. But in all reality? The FULLNESS is not quite there yet. But again BALTIMORE/DC and nearly NYC/Boston but I still DO NOT SEE THE FULLNESS TO PHILLY. Or Baltimore and Philly did yet.

Some publications also penned a Chicago to Pittsburgh one and San Francisco to LA/San Diego. I don't think we claim that today either. But BosWash one penned is FURTHEST ALONG.

Here is a article on the 1961 article that penned the term and listed others and 50 years later.... Aldo noted a .... In a 1967 book,predicted that by 2000 one-half of the U.S. population would live in those three megalopolises and that any examination of U.S. population trends in the 21st century "would largely be a study of BosWash, ChiPitts, and SanSan." But IN REALITY.... The 3 BosWash ChiPitts and SanSan..... penned. Was 36% of TOTAL US Population on 1960. BUT ONLY 31% IN 2001. I don't think it grew to much higher today in 2015.

U.S. Megalopolises 50 Years Later

This in Wikipedia list some publications and what they say...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash

I just say its COMPLETION IS NOT YET. You can say the Baltimore to DC part ..... HAS NOW extended to the Southeastern Virginia region, the VA Beach/Newport News Metro area. BUT IT'S NOT one to NYC. Eventually it reasons it will go to The Carolinas and Atlanta?

If MY OPINION and others ALL IS NOT TOTALLY THIS COMPLETED ONE TO BOSTON. BUT BALTIMORE DC IS.... Why in common usage we still don't say it but The GREATER BALTIMORE/DC METRO wants to say a taken over of CHICAGOLAND metro. Even DC into Virginia and other states alone will? That is nor yet....

Not to split hairs.... I am fine with it MY OPINION......
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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The East Coast megalopolis has been in existence for forty + years, its called BosWash, Boston - Washington, google it.
BosWash has now extended to the Southeastern Virginia region, the VA Beach/Newport News Metro area.
Going forward
the VA suburbs of DC have pretty much connected to the northern suburbs of Richmond. The southernmost county in the Richmond metro now touches the northernmost county in the VA Beach/Newport News metro.
The 95-64 corridor from DC to VA Beach is now connected with the BosWash complex. The connection goes away south of the VA Beach metro because the distance to Raleigh (next largest metro going south) is too great and breaks things up.
Lol... is this a joke...
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