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Old 09-03-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Just last week, a developer submitted plans for a skyscraper within a block that is zoned for unlimited height that will contain 1,120,000 square feet of floor space including 400+ residential units, office, and retail. The developer hasn't revealed the building height yet, but a supposed insider has leaked information that the skyscraper will be a little over 1,100 feet tall. If this happens, then this newly proposed skyscraper will be the tallest building on the west coast.

Obviously Seattle supporters are hoping that this leak is true (the massive floor space of the proposed structure assists the authenticity of the leaked info).
Hmmm. Maybe. Not questioning the source but 1.12 million square feet doesn't say 1,100+ footer to me. For instance, Wilshire Grand which totals 1.7 million square feet reaches a height of 1,100 feet. Salesforce Tower with 1.37 million square feet reaches a height of 1,070 square feet. Comcast Innovation and Technology Center is 1.517 million square feet and reaches a height of 1,121 feet.

The tower would have to be extremely narrow to reach a height over 1,100 feet... even to reach a height over 1,000 feet. Hoping it's a Supertall over 1,000 feet though
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Phoenix hasn't fully recovered from the recession. During that time they overbuilt, especially single and multifamily residential, and retail. Philadelphia hasn't seen a boom in many years, and probably won't for a while. However, Philadelphia is experiencing much more gentrification than Phoenix. New businesses are attracted to Philadelphia's urban environment, diverse cultural attractions, and down to earth vibe compared to larger cities. Phoenix is a nice place in my opinion, but it needs some help in the urban department.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/phoen...-leslie-jenson

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This is what I was talking about before. The city of Philadelphia is third in the entire country for multifamily construction. The surrounding metropolitan area is among the slowest for multifamily construction in the country however per this new report from Trulia:

Some New Home Construction Markets Like It Hot - Trulia TrendsTrulia Trends
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Hmmm. Maybe. Not questioning the source but 1.12 million square feet doesn't say 1,100+ footer to me. For instance, Wilshire Grand which totals 1.7 million square feet reaches a height of 1,100 feet. Salesforce Tower with 1.37 million square feet reaches a height of 1,070 square feet. Comcast Innovation and Technology Center is 1.517 million square feet and reaches a height of 1,121 feet.

The tower would have to be extremely narrow to reach a height over 1,100 feet... even to reach a height over 1,000 feet. Hoping it's a Supertall over 1,000 feet though
The leaker could be wrong. Plus, I think the FAA limits building heights in downtown Seattle to 1,010, despite our unlimited height zoning. Definitely have my fingers crossed though!
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The leaker could be wrong. Plus, I think the FAA limits building heights in downtown Seattle to 1,010, despite our unlimited height zoning. Definitely have my fingers crossed though!
Even something 1,010 feet in Seattle would be amazing. Hope Seattle joins the US supertall club!
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:05 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I'm pleasantly surprised that Baltimore made the list. I've definitely noticed that there are a few cranes in the air all over the city.
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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This is what I was talking about before. The city of Philadelphia is third in the entire country for multifamily construction. The surrounding metropolitan area is among the slowest for multifamily construction in the country however per this new report from Trulia:

Some New Home Construction Markets Like It Hot - Trulia TrendsTrulia Trends
It's not third for construction, its third for building permits based on that website. Construction would have to rank actual units under construction. You can have 10 building permits for only 50 units. The amount of units is the real indicator. Typically, the metros with the most units under construction are going to be those with the largest buildings going up on average.
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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This is what I was talking about before. The city of Philadelphia is third in the entire country for multifamily construction. The surrounding metropolitan area is among the slowest for multifamily construction in the country however per this new report from Trulia:

Some New Home Construction Markets Like It Hot - Trulia TrendsTrulia Trends
That's not true. The Census has the building permits by metro area for 2015, and I believe Dallas would be third in multifamily units. I'm not even sure if Philly is Top 15 (I suspect no).

https://www.census.gov/construction/...t3yu201507.txt
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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OK, so I'm a nerd and decided to compile the actual Census numbers of multifamily (defined only as 5+ units) building permits by MSA-

1. NYC- 53,745
2. LA -14,649
3. Houston- 13,362
4. Dallas- 12,400
5. Seattle- 9,246
6. Miami- 9,121
7. Atlanta- 6,165
8. Washington, DC- 5,771
9. Boston- 5,373
10. Austin- 4,531
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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That's not true. The Census has the building permits by metro area for 2015, and I believe Dallas would be third in multifamily units. I'm not even sure if Philly is Top 15 (I suspect no).

https://www.census.gov/construction/...t3yu201507.txt
The statistics in the article mentioned actually didn't claim third overall for total number of units. Instead it went by percentage increase. I'm assuming the stats cited were on the up and up and Philadelphia really did have a large uptick relative to its past permitting levels but in addition and this is a pet peeve of mine the table only had the relative percentages and not the absolute numbers so it was hard to put the data in context.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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OK, so I'm a nerd and decided to compile the actual Census numbers of multifamily (defined only as 5+ units) building permits by MSA-

1. NYC- 53,745
2. LA -14,649
3. Houston- 13,362
4. Dallas- 12,400
5. Seattle- 9,246
6. Miami- 9,121
7. Atlanta- 6,165
8. Washington, DC- 5,771
9. Boston- 5,373
10. Austin- 4,531
It's these types of lists that answer the question "Why does NYC always dominate polls?" The answer is because it's on a completely different scale and level than any other US city. It's exponentially more urban and more dense than anywhere else in the country.
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