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Old 12-21-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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Though I would say this has more of a Philly pace to it. A little more "jiggy" for lack of a better word. Slower-paced.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m54GoQbEDf8
MAN, were that song and group lame. I remember my friends and me laughing at how awful that song and group were at the time.
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Well, every city that was a hotbed for Hip-Hop contributed SOMETHING that caught on outside its local metro at one point or another, which is part of the reason they got on the map.
You say "every city that was a hotbed for hip hop" as if there were a dozen of them or so. Really, you're talking about NYC, Los Angeles, New Orleans and Atlanta. Those are the big ones.

New Orleans didn't contribute "one little thing." That frequent hi hat is the thing in Southern hip hop along with 808s. Without that, there'd be no trap music. No Jeezy, no Gucci, no Waka, no Future, etc.

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But I don't think that one high hat is enough to say that other cities' Hip Hip "sounds like" New Orleans' Hip Hop, though. Like I said, New Orleans Hip Hop is so instumental heavy and multi-genre influenced that even if one small aspect caught on and spread to other cities, it's still not enough to say that they are "heavily" New Orleans influenced.
It wasn't one small aspect. It was Cash Money and No Limit. They set hip hop on a completely different trajectory. Atlanta built upon the foundation they laid down.
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:28 PM
 
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You say "every city that was a hotbed for hip hop" as if there were a dozen of them or so. Really, you're talking about NYC, Los Angeles, New Orleans and Atlanta. Those are the big ones.

New Orleans didn't contribute "one little thing." That frequent hi hat is the thing in Southern hip hop along with 808s. Without that, there'd be no trap music. No Jeezy, no Gucci, no Waka, no Future, etc.



It wasn't one small aspect. It was Cash Money and No Limit. They set hip hop on a completely different trajectory. Atlanta built upon the foundation they laid down.
Umm...Atlanta had already made its name as a unique Hip Hop hotbed and a Southern powerhouse before No Limit and Cash Money even got popular (especially Cash Money, since they came later).
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Umm...Atlanta had already made its name as a unique Hip Hop hotbed and a Southern powerhouse before No Limit and Cash Money even got popular (especially Cash Money, since they came later).
I said that Atlanta built upon the foundation Cash Money laid down. Trap music sounds more like Cash Money than it does Aquemini, ATLiens, Still Standing, etc.
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:41 PM
 
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I said that Atlanta built upon the foundation Cash Money laid down. Trap music sounds more like Cash Money than it does Aquemini, ATLiens, Still Standing, etc.
Well as I said before, Atlanta has borrowed heavily from other Southern Hip Hop hotbeds for years to come up with "their" sound, so time notwithstanding, it's no surprise the music coming out of Atlanta these days doesn't sound like it did 20 years ago. But I still don't think Trap Music sounds like New Orleans or Cash Money music at all, except for that one hi hat you pointed out. But that's just me, as a native Southerner who has been listening to different types of Hip Hop music from all over the South since the 80's and who can tell the difference between them.
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Well as I said before, Atlanta has borrowed heavily from other Southern Hip Hop hotbeds for years to come up with "their" sound, so time notwithstanding, it's no surprise the music coming out of Atlanta these days doesn't sound like it did 20 years ago. But I still don't think Trap Music sounds like New Orleans or Cash Money music at all, except for that one hi hat you pointed out. But that's just me, as a native Southerner who has been listening to different types of Hip Hop music from all over the South since the 80's and who can tell the difference between them.
Same here. I see very little similarities between trap music and Cash Money from the late 90s and early 00s. They do not remind me of each other that all and I bet most Southerners would agree with that.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Now Nwa leader was Eazy e,A member of the Kelly park Compton Crips that sold drugs,Mc ren also was in the streets,Cube wasnt in a gang but wasnt no punk either.
I didn't say Eazy-E wasn't in a gang. I said Dr Dre and Ice Cube were studio gangsters. But Eazy-E had to have been in a gang to be taken seriously with that voice.

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Remember punk ass Tim dog making F Compton over gang violence ? Now years later Tim dog Neighborhood & majority of NYC hoods are filled with L.A & Compton gangs lmao
Crips and Bloods never had a presence in NYC until after the takedowns in the 90s when most of the city's leaders and bosses were locked up or killed.

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Now name me 10 gangsta rappers from Philly on the national level like Compton ?
I don't care how many studio gangsters LA had. Schoolly D is the original and he's from Philly. LA had Death Row which is why so many LA artists went mainstream.

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L.A is the mecca of Gangbanging/therefore the mecca of Gang rap little kid.
You're right, LA has a lot of gang members. For a city with 120k gang members there should be way more than 250 murders a year. LA's gang image is obviously more of a mirage that teenage boys and grown men in California revel in. Gangs are a fashion in CA. NY was never like that. If you were a gang member, you were a gang member. The east coast never had trend gangs until LA brought it.

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Like i said Schooly told crime stories but what Nwa did wasnt heard of before they hit the scene. Maybe that Nwa movie got you upset at the L.A Legacy Nwa left on the game,Greatest rap group of all time. Pac Greatest rapper of all time,Dr dre the greatest producer of all time & hip hops first billionaire !!!
The movie looks corny to be honest but I only saw a couple ads for it. I don't care about it. Tupac was a drama queen and Dr Dre was a cross dresser.

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Far as biggie son goes,its embarrassing how he turned out,No disrespect to biggie but didnt he rap about sucking his girl dad & getting his behind licked ?
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Than mister cee caught in Brooklyn picking up men but you not salty right Lol
Mister Cee is a bisexual DJ. He wasn't a gangster rapper. He can't be labeled a fraud like LA's own studio gangster/stripper/Change of Heart bachelorette:


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Old 12-22-2015, 07:22 PM
 
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I didn't say Eazy-E wasn't in a gang. I said Dr Dre and Ice Cube were studio gangsters. But Eazy-E had to have been in a gang to be taken seriously with that voice.



Crips and Bloods never had a presence in NYC until after the takedowns in the early and mid 90s when most of the city's leaders and bosses were locked up or killed.



How many rappers come from a city doesn't make a city more gangster. Lmao. I don't care how many studio gangsters LA had. Schoolly D is the original and he's from Philly. LA had Death Row which is why so many LA artists went mainstream.



You're right, LA has a lot of gang members. And for a city with 120k gang members, there should be way more than 250 murders a year. Philly has as many murders as LA and Philly is small compared to LA. LA's gang image is obviously more of a mirage that teenage boys and grown men in California revel in. LA is not a "hard" city. It hasn't been in 20 years. Get over it.



The movie looks corny to be honest but I only saw a couple ads for it. I don't care about it. Tupac was a baby and Dr Dre was a cross dresser.



Link.



Mister Cee is a bisexual DJ. He wasn't a gangster rapper. He can't be labeled a fraud like studio gangster/stripper/Change of Heart Bachelorette The Game:
Let's stay on topic before this thread get axed.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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Atlanta takes the crown for having the artist(s) with the high selling rap album, Outkast speakerboxx/the love below.
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:50 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Atlanta takes the crown for having the artist(s) with the high selling rap album, Outkast speakerboxx/the love below.
No. NYC takes the crown.
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