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Old 12-26-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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Back to the original subject I agree that New York should not be lumped in with New Jersey since this was city-based not state or regional based. I also agree that using album sales as the primary barometer of success in the music biz is becoming antiquated as on-demand streaming has now taken over. And the Internet has erased most of the differences in regional sounds so all the debates on which coast, state or region is dominant is pretty irrelevant now. Jay Electronica (New Orleans) sounds like he's from NY and Fetty Wap (Patterson, NJ) soulds like he's from the A so its whatever...
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Dallas TX sucks
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^^Agreed. It is foolish to put NJ & NY together. I feel they should have separated the boroughs .

Virginia (VA Beach area) - 8
Va Beach is incorrect. It should be listed as Tidewater, Hampton Roads or 757. Missy Elliot Portsmouth is not the same as Va Beach in anyway.The map on the link says Hampton Roads.

Next do a map of producers.

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Old 12-26-2015, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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@Joey,Yeah Biggie used to hit Cali plenty of times and almost got clipped by E 40 like in 94 lol ,You need that link too ???

And nothing about Pac Delivery was N.y,he wasnt on no Son,B,Peace money talk,Most his words were Westcoast related like Westside Ridaz,Bomb first,Hennessey & Smashing fools.....

He stated plenty of times the East didnt give him game,Cali made him strong & a Thug !!!
Drake was around the same age as Tupac when he came out to Houston. Pac was rapping before he got to the west, just like Drake. And Drake reps Houston as well.
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Old 12-26-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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@Joey,Yeah Biggie used to hit Cali plenty of times and almost got clipped by E 40 like in 94 lol ,You need that link too ???

And nothing about Pac Delivery was N.y,he wasnt on no Son,B,Peace money talk,Most his words were Westcoast related like Westside Ridaz,Bomb first,Hennessey & Smashing fools.....

He stated plenty of times the East didnt give him game,Cali made him strong & a Thug !!!
I'd argue that his first 2 studio albums were NY of the times. He was working with Live Squad, heavy then. Plus, he used NY slang (peace my g, son, word up, bucking people, etc). Me against the world is when he started really using the California sound more.

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Old 12-26-2015, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Maine
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@Joey,Yeah Biggie used to hit Cali plenty of times and almost got clipped by E 40 like in 94 lol ,You need that link too ???
And what did E-40 do? Nothing. Tupac got shot in NY, Death Row got shot at in NY and fled the city, Suge's friend Jake Robles was shot when Death Row tried to fight with Puff Daddy's crew, Kevin Reed was shot outside Hot 97 and The Game blamed 50 Cent. Lmfao.

Biggie was shot in CA. By cops.

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And nothing about Pac Delivery was N.y,he wasnt on no Son,B,Peace money talk,Most his words were Westcoast related like Westside Ridaz,Bomb first,Hennessey & Smashing fools.....

He stated plenty of times the East didnt give him game,Cali made him strong & a Thug !!!
Lol Tupac liked to claim he gave Biggie his game, but Biggie already had it.




And link me to where Pac said the east coast didn't give him game or make him a thug. What, did Marin City make him a thug? Lmao. Is this you ignoring the fact that murder rates were higher on the east coast?

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Old 12-26-2015, 07:10 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Lol the east coast vs west coast beef is back.
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:15 AM
 
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Kode get your boy lol
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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Joey,E40 saved his life when his boys had guns to Biggie !!!! Puffy tried to dance his way out i guess lol

And Cops didn't kill biggie but i wont say who did, but just know it was crooked cops linked to Compton gang members in the LAPD.Had puffy screaming & hollering and back to Ny in a few hrs smh.

@80skid,Pac first album was in Oakland lol,Brendas got a baby doesn't have him saying son or dun lmao
His singles were trapped & it was a video of him in Oakland running from police.

His 2nd album was also in the Bay,I get around & holla if ya hear me doesnt have him saying peace b or word money lol.

Now did he have N.y influence ? Of course because he was born there but his whole mainstream rap career was in California, ColdHardFacts !!!
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Old 12-27-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Blkgiraffe,Are you serious about Drake claiming Houston because Pac repped Cali ??

Pac been in Cali since a teenager bro,16 or 17 he came to the West & when he passed away he was a California resident .

Drake is a t.v show actor with no real roots to Houston, Pac Family are Black panthers which also originated in Cali,So Pac California roots run deep.
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Old 12-27-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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Pac moved to Cali after be graduated high school in Baltimore.
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