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You do realize that Buena Park is walking distance from Wrigleyville, Boystown, and Lakeview in general, right? It's sitting immediately north of Lakeview's border on Irving Park, and its one L stop further north than Wrigley Field. That's why Buena Park is attractive for a lot of people, in addition to beach access, which Lakeview lacks, and the Target off Wilson.
Not saying it isn't slightly cheaper than what you find in Lakeview, but Buena Park has essentially become Lakeview's spillover at this point. Uptown is also changing in general. Still not on Lakeview's level by though.
Apparently you missed the part where I said Buena Park is "nice for sure". But Uptown on a whole is pretty scuzzy. I went to the skatepark on Wilson with a family member several months ago. Needless to say going to the 'L' train station at night, it was sketch as all hell over there.
Areas that will truly have that year-round warm/cool weather are places like Santa Monica or Huntington Beach, aka that area's version of a coastal San Diego. But common sense would tell you that they would also be a hell of a lot more expensive.
Lawndale, Inglewood, Hawthorne, Gardena, Carson and even Culver City aren't that expensive, and the weather in those communities isn't appreciably different to what you'd find along the immediate coastline in Santa Monica, Marina del Rey, Redondo Beach, etc.
Lawndale, Inglewood, Hawthorne, Gardena, Carson and even Culver City aren't that expensive, and the weather in those communities isn't appreciably different to what you'd find along the immediate coastline in Santa Monica, Marina del Rey, Redondo Beach, etc.
Would be somewhat interesting to see the COL of the places you listed in comparison to Chicago, but too lazy to look it up myself.
I really don't like cold but I also don't know much about what Chicago has to offer.
The only time I've ever been to Chicago was when I was a teenager with my family during my dad's conference. The only places I actually got to go were at a Cubs' game and Lake Michigan. So yeah. My heart wants to pick LA, but my brain is not letting me be so bias.
Apparently you missed the part where I said Buena Park is "nice for sure". But Uptown on a whole is pretty scuzzy. I went to the skatepark on Wilson with a family member several months ago. Needless to say going to the 'L' train station at night, it was sketch as all hell over there.
Well not many in Buena Park would use the Wilson stop, most people in Buena Park don't go up near Wilson for anything. They mostly use the lakeshore express buses or the Sheridan station that borders the neighorhood (Wilson is up north of the neighborhood). Most of the ammenities people use are just to the south in Lakeview/Boystown/Wrigleyville as opposed to walking the same distance to the north were it's crappier and less options.
I lived right in the center of Buena Park and could walk to Boystown or Wrigley in around 10-12 minutes.
LoL no one is accusing you of hiding anything. You just seem to want to tip toe around reality.
Los Angeles property taxes are not going to cost more, assuming all things equal. Ie: If you buy a dwelling at 500k in LA vs 500k in Chicago, your tax burden is going much less in LA. There is really no other reality but this.
I'm just putting numbers up that are reported by the agencies. The LA Times reports all median property taxes in the county and for Los Angeles it's 1.22%. Chicago was reported as 1.86% overall (although I've never paid more than 1.4% on my three properties).
Median housing value housing in Chicago is $199,500 at a 1.86% rate is $3,710
Median housing value in Los Angeles is $562,800 at a 1.22% rate is $6,866
I'm not tip toping around, just as an accountant/finance guy in the real estate industry I'm stating the simple numbers.
Comparable housing in Chicago is going to be hundreds more a month if renting and hundreds more on a mortgage plus higher property taxes - for similar housing - you're going to need a greater average salary to pay this, and wages in Chicago are somewhat higher in Los Angeles, but you need a much larger salary in Los Angeles to buy a home.
Apparently you missed the part where I said Buena Park is "nice for sure". But Uptown on a whole is pretty scuzzy. I went to the skatepark on Wilson with a family member several months ago. Needless to say going to the 'L' train station at night, it was sketch as all hell over there.
Uptown as a whole is not "pretty scuzzy." The majority of Uptown is actually fine, and the neighborhood is continuing to change. Wilson is a problem area, but it's not in Buena Park, nor is it the L stop that's the closest to the majority of Buena Park's residents.
The Sheridan L stop, which straddles the border of Lakeview and Buena Park/Uptown, is the closer L stop for the majority of Buena Park residents, and, as Chicago60614 pointed out, the express buses are popular with many residents as well due to their proximity.
Bargain or not, I would choose Chicago, and I hate the cold. I'm an easterner to the core, and don't really care for the LA culture.
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