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Detroit just lost a poll to San Antonio despite having a far larger metro area population, a much deeper/influential history, a larger global profile, all four major pro sports teams (with 3 of those being winners), a more diverse population, a renowned musical legacy, better educational institutions within the immediate metro, and its own name being used as a metonym for a major global industry (automobiles). So yea, Detroit gets ****ed on and stiffed more than any other metro on C-D. Some of it is rightly earned, and a lot of it is not.
I guarantee you that Los Angeles vs San Antonio, or Phoenix vs San Antonio, or Miami vs San Antonio, or Philadelphia vs San Antonio, or Atlanta vs San Antonio, and possibly even Baltimore/Pittsburgh vs San Antonio would not have the smaller, less populous, less influential, less wealthy, one pro sport team-having San Antonio winning in those match-ups. And this is not a knock against San Antonio, which is a fast-growing metro with a lot going for it. But on a lot of objective metrics, and not the subjective stuff like weather, San Antonio is a clear tier behind Detroit. I think that illustrates the hate/disdain on these forums for Detroit to a tee.
Oklahoma City loses to smaller cities all the time as well. I believe it lost to Omaha, Des Moines, and Albuquerque. The only fair competition OKC won was vs Birmingham.
Detroit just lost a poll to San Antonio despite having a far larger metro area population, a much deeper/influential history, a larger global profile, all four major pro sports teams (with 3 of those being winners), a more diverse population, a renowned musical legacy, better educational institutions within the immediate metro, and its own name being used as a metonym for a major global industry (automobiles). So yea, Detroit gets ****ed on and stiffed more than any other metro on C-D. Some of it is rightly earned, and a lot of it is not.
I guarantee you that Los Angeles vs San Antonio, or Phoenix vs San Antonio, or Miami vs San Antonio, or Philadelphia vs San Antonio, or Atlanta vs San Antonio, and possibly even Baltimore/Pittsburgh vs San Antonio would not have the smaller, less populous, less influential, less wealthy, one pro sport team-having San Antonio winning in those match-ups. And this is not a knock against San Antonio, which is a fast-growing metro with a lot going for it. But on a lot of objective metrics, and not the subjective stuff like weather, San Antonio is a clear tier behind Detroit. I think that illustrates the hate/disdain on these forums for Detroit to a tee.
Baltimore
Buffalo
Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
Very large but generally disliked
Los Angeles
Miami
Philadelphia
Slow-growing Southern metropolitan areas
Birmingham
Louisville
Memphis
New Orleans
Perceived as too "country" "rural," "conservative" or "boring"
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Kansas City
Oklahoma City
San Antonio
Not "real" cities
Atlanta
Charlotte
Dallas/Fort Worth
Houston
Las Vegas
Nashville
Orlando
Phoenix
Raleigh
Riverside/San Bernardino
Tampa
I'll add a category:
Large but generally ignored
Columbus
Hartford
Milwaukee
Providence
Richmond
Rochester
Salt Lake City
Sacramento
San Diego
Virginia Beach/Norfolk
That leaves us with this category:
If these cities' best-known local dish was human feces, people on this website would gladly eat it and eagerly ask for seconds
Austin
Boston
Chicago
Denver
Minneapolis/St. Paul
New York
Portland
San Francisco/Oakland
San Jose
Seattle
Washington DC
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