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His comments were based on truth your gutter snip comments belong in the garbage can .
I guess only some people are afforded over-generalizations.
I love Philly and San Diego. They are both amazing cities and more down-to-earth than their larger neighbors. However, I think it is asinine to imply that Philly is some oasis of urbanity or that San Diego is only beaches, when 90% of people in both metros do not live in urban areas (Philly) or near the beach (San Diego).
Or people who prefer a year-round, high standard of living versus a dirty, crime-ridden city with "urbanity"
Oh come on. Why do you have to resort to low blows? Philadelphia is more of a city than San Diego could ever dream to be, even if it has crime ridden and rundown areas. It also has beautiful areas as well.
I guess only some people are afforded over-generalizations.
I love Philly and San Diego. They are both amazing cities and more down-to-earth than their larger neighbors. However, I think it is asinine to imply that Philly is some oasis of urbanity or that San Diego is only beaches, when 90% of people in both metros do not live in urban areas (Philly) or near the beach (San Diego).
There is way more to each city!!!
Eh, as in how people are generally taking each city and voting accordingly. I don't reckon that's untrue. Philadelphia is an oasis of urbanity though (for the US where urbanity like that is exceedingly rare) and people do cite the weather as a very prime reason for going to southern California.
Oh come on. Why do you have to resort to low blows? Philadelphia is more of a city than San Diego could ever dream to be, even if it has crime ridden and rundown areas. It also has beautiful areas as well.
But isn't there some truth to that? Poverty rate, one of the highest in the nation and the highest among the 10 largest cities. Bad public schools, high crime. I was in San Diego in August and Philadelphia in September. San Diego was by far the cleanest and most fun. Philadelphia was fun too but I did notice how run down parts of it really are. You can be dense and urban with 12,000 people per square mile, and build tall buildings but what is the city doing about its poverty, bad schools, crime and run down areas?
But isn't there some truth to that? Poverty rate, one of the highest in the nation and the highest among the 10 largest cities. Bad public schools, high crime. I was in San Diego in August and Philadelphia in September. San Diego was by far the cleanest and most fun. Philadelphia was fun too but I did notice how run down parts of it really are. You can be dense and urban with 12,000 people per square mile, and build tall buildings but what is the city doing about its poverty, bad schools, crime and run down areas?
They're trying to do quite a lot actually. Read up on it. It's not as if the city is completely unaware of this and doing nothing about it while building skyscrapers lol.
In fact, the new $3.5 Billion dollar skyscraper development planned in University City just announced will also partner with local schools to develop kids early in impoverished surrounding areas to be qualified to attend schools to the caliber of Drexel and UPenn to where they could eventually work in high quality jobs in the development.
Just because you are unaware of what is going on because you don't live in the area, doesn't mean nothing is happening to change things.
And what does being clean have to do with anything? San Diego is cleaner than NYC but it's not a better city than it. Fun is a point of view, and is dependent on how much you know about a particular city, but there is definitely far more to do in the city of Philadelphia than in the city of San Diego, and that's not even including surrounding areas, where Philadelphia far exceeds.
They're trying to do quite a lot actually. Read up on it. It's not as if the city is completely unaware of this and doing nothing about it while building skyscrapers lol.
Philadelphia has been trying to revitalize its urban core since the 1950s, starting with prominent urban planners/architects like Ed Bacon. I am a very optimistic person and fully believe in the future improvement of Philadelphia, however the current reality is that the living standards are not that high in most urban areas. It's actually very difficult to enjoy the benefits of urbanity when streets are unsafe, full of litter, or have abandoned buildings.
Skyscrapers do not improve living standards, they just improve property values. Lower income people are pushed out and poverty is intensified once again, in another neighborhood. Development alone will not address the problems that Philadelphia has. It requires a regional and city-wide partnership between the city and developers. (or at the very least, zoning regulations, incentives, etc.)
that's not even including surrounding areas, where Philadelphia far exceeds.
From a traveler's perspective there is plenty more to do in Philadelphia proper. However, I think San Diego is still a better place to take residence.
The point you made above is largely untrue. San Diego has plenty of things to do in surrounding areas, including an entirely different country 20 mins from downtown. As far as things to do in surrounding areas, Philly and San Diego are pretty even.
I would definitely rather visit a city like Philadelphia for vacation, but I think San Diego is a better place to live. Philly is definitely more "cool", but I value personal safety, decent schools, active lifestyles, and outdoor recreation more than urbanity. Hopefully San Diego will have more places that will offer these amenities one day.
I love it , but there people who live here who still get scared driving over it. It's much higher and narrower than the Ben Franklin Bridge. What makes it scary is the low wall, lack of guard rails and no breakdown lane. You are riding along the edge. One wrong move and it's a 200' drop to the bottom.
The best part is once you reach the other side it's Coronado, not Camden. Zillow prices say it all.
One more time. I am referring to the respective regions of San Diego and Philadlelphia not the city themselves.The Greater San Diego region is severely restricted in regards to areas of growth.
Then you need to use another word to describe San Diego than claustrophobic. I live 5 miles as the crow flies from downtown San Diego and 5 miles in the other direction from hiking trails below. Look claustrophobic to you?
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