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White Baltimoreans don't have a Southern accent. Linguistics maps prove Baltimore and Philly talk in the same accent.
"Prove" is a strong word. Evidence shows that they are absolutely similar but not the same. In this part of the country, as with the cities themselves, nothing is in absolutes because there are many overlapping influences.
In this case, Baltimore exhibits physical characteristics of Philly that correspond to being key American ports of entry, industry and urban density during a particular era. Baltimore and DC also share an entirely different layer of history/culture that doesn't really have anything to do with Philly just as Philly and NY have a history/culture identity that has its own parallels.
1. Watch the last video, please.
2. I said "IZED".
3. Please strengthen your reading comprehension.
4. White Baltimoreans don't say "mi-en (mitten)", " bettah", "tawk", "fahrrist (forest)", or "Beggels (bagels)".
5. They do say "maund (mind)", " hayouse (house)" and "Holluntown" (Highlandtown).
6. They don't eat "hoagies" nor do they know what "mischief night" is or what the "L" is.
"Prove" is a strong word. Evidence shows that they are absolutely similar but not the same. In this part of the country, as with the cities themselves, nothing is in absolutes because there are many overlapping influences.
In this case, Baltimore exhibits physical characteristics of Philly that correspond to being key American ports of entry, industry and urban density during a particular era. Baltimore and DC also share an entirely different layer of history/culture that doesn't really have anything to do with Philly just as Philly and NY have a history/culture identity that has its own parallels.
Difficult: like U146 said, Demographically DC and Balt are more similar, though Balt (I don't consider this city to be rust-belt) and Philly (not sure if it's rust belt) both have similar urban decay at present (DC once did). Interestingly, the Baltimore "white" accent is like a southerners l southernized "white" Philly accent, while the "blaccents" of Balt and DC sound similar.
Another thing to consider is the two centuries of southern history that Balt and DC have, which Philadelphia lacks.
The densities of DC and Philly aren't too far apart and are nothing like Baltimore (which has "suburban" neighborhoods that can be very well within city limits), which gives it a different feel from the other two cities and like neither of them.
1. The "white" Baltimore accent isn't southern. Definitely unique, and had a very blue collar, port city sound, but not southern.
2. The "Black" Baltimore and DC accent are nothing alike.Even an untrained ear can easily spot the difference between the two accents. The Baltimore accent very unique and like no other city on the planet. DC's accent sounds like a mash up of Boston and NC.
3. Baltimore is no more "suburban" than either of the other two cities. Name a suburban neighborhood well within Baltimore city limits... Don't worry, I'll wait.
4. Baltimore is quite a bit older than DC, so there is some history that DC wasn't even around for. And their histories aren't that similar at all. A city built to house the Federal Government vs a port city and immigration hub.
1. The "white" Baltimore accent isn't southern. Definitely unique, and had a very blue collar, port city sound, but not southern.
2. The "Black" Baltimore and DC accent are nothing alike.Even an untrained ear can easily spot the difference between the two accents. The Baltimore accent very unique and like no other city on the planet. DC's accent sounds like a mash up of Boston and NC.
3. Baltimore is no more "suburban" than either of the other two cities. Name a suburban neighborhood well within Baltimore city limits... Don't worry, I'll wait.
4. Baltimore is quite a bit older than DC, so there is some history that DC wasn't even around for. And their histories aren't that similar at all. A city built to house the Federal Government vs a port city and immigration hub.
I quoted because outsiders think those areas are in the county. Somebody in the Baltimore forum asked how long the commute was from Ednor Gardens to the city. I coughs name dozens; I grew up in one myself.
off the top of my head.
These places aren't suburbs to me, but are to people from other places. Most of these areas are in northern Baltimore, beyond 33rd street (unless you're at the edges of East and West Baltimore). The large areas like this allow there to be a nearly 4000K/sq.mi. density difference between Baltimore and Philadelphia.
Have you ever lived in Baltimore City?
When I said "history," I was referring to their southern-ness. You are correct in that Baltimore and Philadelphia have industrial pasts.
DC and Balt accents:
-Murrland
-Fahv (five) even among younger generations unless you have a light accent.
-Both site l sound like off southern accents.
I have been talking about the difference between 'similar' and 'same' the whole time. Of course one can distinguish them, but like Bmore and Philly's white accents, Bmore and DC's black accents are best grouped with each other than with other places. Thus makes sense, considering that the black people in both cities have influence from North Carolina and are living in a place where the whites have a different accent that is still fully (DC) or borderline (Baltimore) southern accents.
I'm not the one calling the Baltimore accent southern.
"When I moved to Bolton Hill from Cincinnati in 1951, there was a thick Southern accent here,” says Shivers, the 80-year-old local historian, who still lives there. “It had its own culture and you had to get used to it. The main reason to meet people was to find out where they came from. They were very interested in one’s background and if there was any Southern heritage to it. If you measured up, you were fine."
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I would definitely go with Philadelphia. I associate Baltimore and Philadelpha together because of their northeast big-city layout, somewhat similar demographics, and rich history that goes back well before 1900. Baltimore and DC, on the other hand, are built differently and seem culturally different as well.
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Originally Posted by KodeBlue
Some people in this site lump Baltimore and DC together (I personally hate that people do that), but doing that, will invariably distort people's perception since Baltimore and DC aren't really anything alike.
I've done that, but when I do, it has more to do with their geographic proximity and the way they, to some degree, function as one metropolitan area.
1. The "white" Baltimore accent isn't southern. Definitely unique, and had a very blue collar, port city sound, but not southern.
2. The "Black" Baltimore and DC accent are nothing alike.Even an untrained ear can easily spot the difference between the two accents. The Baltimore accent very unique and like no other city on the planet. DC's accent sounds like a mash up of Boston and NC.
3. Baltimore is no more "suburban" than either of the other two cities. Name a suburban neighborhood well within Baltimore city limits... Don't worry, I'll wait.
4. Baltimore is quite a bit older than DC, so there is some history that DC wasn't even around for. And their histories aren't that similar at all. A city built to house the Federal Government vs a port city and immigration hub.
Have come to the same conclusion the past few years. Or I should say, I can tell the differences myself instead of saying they sound nothing alike.
1. Watch the last video, please.
2. I said "IZED".
3. Please strengthen your reading comprehension.
4. White Baltimoreans don't say "mi-en (mitten)", " bettah", "tawk", "fahrrist (forest)", or "Beggels (bagels)".
5. They do say "maund (mind)", " hayouse (house)" and "Holluntown" (Highlandtown).
6. They don't eat "hoagies" nor do they know what "mischief night" is or what the "L" is.
We know what mischief night is....
You don't seem to know much about Baltimore, I'm noticing.
There seems to be more of a relationship between DC and Richmond, while Baltimore and Philly are arguably more similar. At the same time, Baltimore still has some southern traits if you glance at history that Philly lacks. However, in this day and age, I guess Baltimore and Philly are more similar. DC isn't quite as gritty and blue-collar, too.
1. Watch the last video, please.
2. I said "IZED".
3. Please strengthen your reading comprehension.
4. White Baltimoreans don't say "mi-en (mitten)", " bettah", "tawk", "fahrrist (forest)", or "Beggels (bagels)".
5. They do say "maund (mind)", " hayouse (house)" and "Holluntown" (Highlandtown).
6. They don't eat "hoagies" nor do they know what "mischief night" is or what the "L" is.
Sorry, but the University of Pennsylvania dialect maps group Baltimore in with Philly, not with the South. If you think you have such a strong case and are smarter than these people than tell them they're wrong and change the map.
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