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View Poll Results: Can cities like Houston and San Diego become urban like the Northeast just by wanting to?
Yes, it's absolutely feasible, all they have to do is want it 36 26.47%
No, that is not realistically feasible, not without really drastic measures 100 73.53%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-22-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Houston doesn't allow the classic types of urbanity. Everything seems to have a suburban amount of parking. They apparently require it.

New towers often have a driveway to the front door. That's something, but it's not urban.
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I'm referring to the City not allowing it, not people not wanting it. I bet not every townhouse resident wants a two-car garage for example. And not every Downtown or TMC resident has a car even at decent income levels.
Yeah, the city codes call for minimum parking in every development of the city. Only a small section of the city, including the downtown, is excluded from these laws:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7527...7i13312!8i6656

Ironically, classic urban development in Houston would be much cheaper/easier to add than the car-centric builds the codes mandate; developers can design as they please, rather than having to take added costs redesigning their buildings to comply with the laws.

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Old 12-22-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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I suspect that, without planning for urbanity, that LA/Miami style density is the default mode. The population may be growing, but the emphasis is on a car-centric non-urban lifestyle.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I'm referring to the City not allowing it, not people not wanting it. I bet not every townhouse resident wants a two-car garage for example. And not every Downtown or TMC resident has a car even at decent income levels.
Yeah but most people do. People love cars and this includes people in urban areas.
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Old 12-23-2017, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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New towers often have a driveway to the front door. That's something, but it's not urban.
Where did you see this?
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Old 12-23-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I suspect that, without planning for urbanity, that LA/Miami style density is the default mode. The population may be growing, but the emphasis is on a car-centric non-urban lifestyle.
I’m not familiar with Miami, but LA hardly got to this point “without planningâ€. It was planned to handle the current amount of people and then some. Butit was planned to be a modern city and that means planning for cars. The argument can be made that older cities aren’t the way that they are because they were planned to be walkable and “urban†but because they lack sufficient planning and infrastructure for more cars.

In any event I agree that Houston and San Diego already are like smaller versions of LA to some extent. But I doubt that the residents of either city want to become as congested as LA, much less Northeastern cities.
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:28 PM
 
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Where did you see this?
It seems to be typical in the Galleria area and other suburban highrise clusters. There are even a some in the CBD proper, like a couple on Smith Street.
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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Yeah but most people do. People love cars and this includes people in urban areas.
I'm not sure why you quoted my post. I said that "not every" person wants parking. I didn't say nobody wants parking.
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I’ve seen on ramps to parking garages but not the front door unless it’s a hotel.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:15 PM
 
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If you'd like, I'll list 20 Houston highrises with driveways to the front door, and link to photos of each. That won't include hotels.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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In any event I agree that Houston and San Diego already are like smaller versions of LA to some extent. But I doubt that the residents of either city want to become as congested as LA, much less Northeastern cities.
Houston has managed very well to become congested without the density of LA, let alone the Northeast.
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